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Old 04-19-2022, 03:13 PM
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This is wrong. You don't have to be a sociopath lol. People play video games because they are easier than real life. Why do you assume people play games to put up with the same bullshit they have to in real life?

Are you the type of person who thinks anybody who plays Grand Theft Auto is a sociopath? Because playing Grand Theft Auto factually does not make you a sociopath. No studies have shown this.
No, I believe that someone who continuously demonstrates (or, rather, proudly boasts) that they don't give a shit about what other people think in a shared online community where your personal reputation matters (if you don't think it does, go pull some legal-but-dick moves on members of Guild X and then go apply to Guild X), and uses that to justify their selfish actions is a sociopath.

I have nothing else to contribute to this conversation, really... because it's clear to everyone else what type of person you are, if that wasn't already clear.
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Old 04-19-2022, 03:18 PM
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No, I believe that someone who continuously demonstrates (or, rather, proudly boasts) that they don't give a shit about what other people think in a shared online community where your personal reputation matters (if you don't think it does, go pull some legal-but-dick moves on members of Guild X and then go apply to Guild X), and uses that to justify their selfish actions is a sociopath.

I have nothing else to contribute to this conversation, really... because it's clear to everyone else what type of person you are, if that wasn't already clear.
You are assuming that shit talking on the internet is inherently wrong, or intentionally malicious. Similar to video games, people use the internet as an outlet because it allows them to say things or do things they couldn't normally say or do in real life. That doesn't make them dicks, that makes them human. Obviously some things are dangerous, like posting other peoples real life information, but most of it is harmless fun and venting. Seal Team hasn't broken any rules, or done anything abnormal.

You are trying to make Everquest exactly like real life, which is silly. If you want to play real life, get off your computer and go outside.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:24 PM
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You are trying to make Everquest exactly like real life, which is silly. If you want to play real life, get off your computer and go outside.
Your arguments are really flawed in that you are separating real life from EQ too much. Yes one is a game and one isn't, but both are built on math/logic & have humans interacting in them. The reason this game is so addicting is that it does closely resemble real life emotions on multiple layers.

Waking the sleeper on a locked server is a dick move but it is part of the rules.
Cutting in front of someone on the road is a dick move but also not inherently against the rules.

I'm not sure why you keep separating the game from real life. We're all interacting in a similar way. This is why nobody agrees with anything you says that's controversial. You form your arguments 100% based on logic, which is rarely the case when complex human emotions are involved.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:28 PM
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Your arguments are really flawed in that you are separating real life from EQ too much. Yes one is a game and one isn't, but both are built on math/logic & have humans interacting in them. The reason this game is so addicting is that it does closely resemble real life emotions on multiple layers.

Waking the sleeper on a locked server is a dick move but it is part of the rules.
Cutting in front of someone on the road is a dick move but also not inherently against the rules.

I'm not sure why you keep separating the game from real life. We're all interacting in a similar way. This is why nobody agrees with anything you says that's controversial. You form your arguments 100% based on logic, which is rarely the case when complex human emotions are involved.
Oh, this is easy to explain. Real life and Everquest are different because you can opt in to Everquest, but you cannot opt in to real life. When you play Everquest, you agree to play by the game mechanics and rules created by the developers. If you don't like it, play another game.

In real life you can't do that. You are forced to play real life. You have to deal with whatever situation you have in life, which means you do need to worry about things like reputation, intent, etc.

People play video games because they can escape reality, not because they want to do the same exact thing they were doing in real life.
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Old 04-19-2022, 04:58 PM
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Oh, this is easy to explain. Real life and Everquest are different because you can opt in to Everquest, but you cannot opt in to real life. When you play Everquest, you agree to play by the game mechanics and rules created by the developers. If you don't like it, play another game.

In real life you can't do that. You are forced to play real life. You have to deal with whatever situation you have in life, which means you do need to worry about things like reputation, intent, etc.

People play video games because they can escape reality, not because they want to do the same exact thing they were doing in real life.
I say it's a dick move, you say it isn't. It's my opinion vs yours. The rules don't matter. I can still have an opinion despite the fact that I opted into this game.

Your opinion is that people play video games because they can escape reality, but I also feel that a lot of people are playing video games because they are fulfilling what they are not getting in reality(friends/improvements/etc.). I can keep going with this.

I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with presenting a "factual" argument in controversial matters that do not necessarily have a right/wrong answer, it's not helping anyone.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:03 PM
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I say it's a dick move, you say it isn't. It's my opinion vs yours. The rules don't matter. I can still have an opinion despite the fact that I opted into this game.

Your opinion is that people play video games because they can escape reality, but I also feel that a lot of people are playing video games because they are fulfilling what they are not getting in reality(friends/improvements/etc.). I can keep going with this.

I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with presenting a "factual" argument in controversial matters that do not necessarily have a right/wrong answer, it's not helping anyone.
It isn't simply opinion vs. opinion. You are trying to frame it this way to sweep facts under the rug. It is a fact that P99 has limited time loot, which you agree to every time you log in to P99. It is your opinion Seal Team are dicks, but there is no evidence to back it up. They agreed to play the same game you did. They played by the rules, and didn't cheat.

If your true intent was to play a game where you make friends, you have picked a very poor choice with P99 lol. It is a non-instanced MMO where scarcity is a primary mechanic. People are going to go the extra mile to get items that are scarce. This means there will be rivalry.

I am being honest, if you want a game where you get all the loot you want, and everybody is super friendly, play Final Fantasy 14. It is a great game. I am loving it myself. The simple problem is you are trying to force P99 to change because of your opinion, which is selfish. I am simply trying to keep it the same, because people like the way P99 is now. if they didn't, people wouldn't play lol.
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Old 04-19-2022, 05:21 PM
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It isn't simply opinion vs. opinion. You are trying to frame it this way to sweep facts under the rug. It is a fact that P99 has limited time loot, which you agree to every time you log in to P99. It is your opinion Seal Team are dicks, but there is no evidence to back it up. They agreed to play the same game you did. They played by the rules, and didn't cheat.

If your true intent was to play a game where you make friends, you have picked a very poor choice with P99 lol. It is a non-instanced MMO where scarcity is a primary mechanic. People are going to go the extra mile to get items that are scarce. This means there will be rivalry.

I am being honest, if you want a game where you get all the loot you want, and everybody is super friendly, play Final Fantasy 14. It is a great game. I am loving it myself. The simple problem is you are trying to force P99 to change because of your opinion, which is selfish. I am simply trying to keep it the same, because people like the way P99 is now. if they didn't, people wouldn't play lol.
Again, it is your opinion that Seal Team are not dicks. And you have provided no evidence that they aren't dicks. You can do something by the rules, not cheat, and still be a dick, despite whether it's in game or IRL.

And I would agree that people who are using this game to substitute real life goals that is not healthy, but that's also a major reason this game is so addicting, is that there are so many real life like mechanics on top of the code.
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Old 04-19-2022, 06:09 PM
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I say it's a dick move, you say it isn't. It's my opinion vs yours. The rules don't matter. I can still have an opinion despite the fact that I opted into this game.

Your opinion is that people play video games because they can escape reality, but I also feel that a lot of people are playing video games because they are fulfilling what they are not getting in reality(friends/improvements/etc.). I can keep going with this.

I'm not sure why you're so obsessed with presenting a "factual" argument in controversial matters that do not necessarily have a right/wrong answer, it's not helping anyone.


100% dick move to wake up him fresh server.
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Old 04-19-2022, 06:18 PM
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100% dick move to wake up him fresh server.
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