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Old 09-08-2022, 08:27 PM
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For all the silent readers that don't want to review the very clear post history and haven't kept caught up on this thread here's a summary:

DSM plays in bad groups that wipe a lot so he thinks a group with 2 encs and a cleric needs a shaman for "safety" to help correct mistakes and prevent wipes. Everyone else knows this group played correctly doesn't need extra heals or shaman utility and just intuitively knows mage is a better filler for the last slot of the group. No amount of data or posting the same thing over and over again changes this. Nor any amount of pretending you are and/or play with "pro players" that make mistakes and wipe all the time. The post history is clear. DSM is wrong and everyone knows it except DSM. Now he's playing the "you guys are just big meanies that call me names and troll" card repeatedly. While hilariously trying to group 3-8 posters together to get anywhere near his personal post count in this thread and try to discredit them for posting a lot and not acknowledging that he's posted more than 2x anybody else. The last resort of a desperate clown that knows he lost the argument and has nothing better to say. He could've ended this days ago if he went and got relevant data to back his claims but the problem is he can't do that because that relevant data would disprove his claims. So he'll just keep restating irrelevant data and napkin math to try to prove a point with shoddy evidence. Also not that it has to be said but just in case anyone was confused by the ravings of a lunatic: Enchanters solo better than non heavily twinked warriors starting at lvl 12 and forever beyond that.

Post history is clear. DSM loses and he loses no matter how many times anybody calls him names. The post history is very clear on this.
You have already admitted to being a troll, and this nonsense is simply more trolling.

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The post history is clear. Your stupidity and stubbornness forces troll behavior cause nothing else gets through your thick skull.

I'll repeat it just in case it hasn't been said before: The post history is clear.

P.S. The post history is clear
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Old 09-08-2022, 08:29 PM
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You have already admitted to being a troll, and this nonsense is simply more trolling.
Another false allegation. I'm simply teaching the mass crowd of silent readers the history of this thread. The post history is very clear.
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Why does <Vanquish> allow DSM to be a member?
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Old 09-08-2022, 08:31 PM
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Another false allegation. I'm simply teaching the mass crowd of silent readers the history of this thread. The post history is very clear.
Careful, you are getting dangerously close to Cyxthryth levels of nonsense posting. A clear sign of desperation.
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Old 09-08-2022, 08:32 PM
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Now he's playing the "you guys are just big meanies that call me names and troll" card repeatedly....The last resort of a desperate clown that knows he lost the argument and has nothing better to say but refuses to admit defeat.
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:11 AM
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For all the silent readers that don't want to review the very clear post history and haven't kept caught up on this thread here's a summary:

DSM plays in bad groups that wipe a lot so he thinks a group with 2 encs and a cleric needs a shaman for "safety" to help correct mistakes and prevent wipes. Everyone else knows this group played correctly doesn't need extra heals or shaman utility and just intuitively knows mage is a better filler for the last slot of the group. No amount of data or posting the same thing over and over again changes this. Nor any amount of pretending you are and/or play with "pro players" that make mistakes and wipe all the time. The post history is clear. DSM is wrong and everyone knows it except DSM. Now he's playing the "you guys are just big meanies that call me names and troll" card repeatedly. While hilariously trying to group 3-8 posters together to get anywhere near his personal post count in this thread and try to discredit them for posting a lot and not acknowledging that he's posted more than 2x anybody else. The last resort of a desperate clown that knows he lost the argument and has nothing better to say but refuses to admit defeat. He could've ended this days ago if he went and got relevant data to back his claims but the problem is he can't do that because that relevant data would disprove his claims. So he'll just keep restating irrelevant data and napkin math to try to prove a point with shoddy evidence. Also not that it has to be said but just in case anyone was confused by the ravings of a lunatic: Enchanters solo better than non heavily twinked warriors starting at lvl 12 and forever beyond that.

Post history is clear. DSM loses and he loses no matter how many times anybody calls him names. The post history is very clear on this.
Thank you for the succinct and helpful summary

I think maybe we should all just add DSM to our ignore list and carry on discussing without him lol. Although the dude might go insane if he knows that no one is reading his novel length posts about how he's the only one who is right
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:39 AM
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Thank you for the succinct and helpful summary

I think maybe we should all just add DSM to our ignore list and carry on discussing without him lol. Although the dude might go insane if he knows that no one is reading his novel length posts about how he's the only one who is right
Someone is really salty they lost the debate. Agreeing with nonsense is silly.
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:49 AM
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Someone is really salty they lost the debate. Agreeing with nonsense is silly.
You lost posting 700 times and refusing to stop until you have last word, hope that helps
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Old 09-09-2022, 11:55 AM
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You lost posting 700 times and refusing to stop until you have last word, hope that helps
There are 800+ posts of just insults and memes from other users because people can't admit to being wrong, or have a civil conversation. Your own posts are included in this count. Hope this helps.

The real summary of the thread is everybody has agreed that in an Enchanter/Enchanter/Cleric group, the DPS of the fourth member is irrelevant.

When comparing Mages to Shamans, everybody has agreed the only benefit you get from a Mage is a little more DPS and CoTH if you need it.

At this point it is simply preference whether you prefer a small boost in DPS and CoTH over a Shamans broad toolkit that increases safety and opens up more camps. When looking at DPS break points, the extra DPS a Mage provides over a Shaman isn't really enough to get you additional spawns unless you play for long sessions. The difference in kill speed between 200 DPS and 230 DPS on Fungi King is 89 seconds vs. 77 seconds. For 12 seconds to actually give you another Fungi King spawn, you would need to kill Fungi King/PH 150 times in a single session.
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Old 09-09-2022, 12:30 PM
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Someone is really salty they lost the debate. Agreeing with nonsense is silly.
Do you like Trump? Because the only other person I know who like yourself can absolutely never admit when he's wrong is him.
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