Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troxx is not the overlord of this forum.

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[PlsNoBan]

I will say if I was ever mentally ill enough to attempt raiding on blue again. I don't really have any preference between VQ and Riot or whoever else. This guy is WAY more than enough reason to avoid whatever guild thinks this type of person is a good member lol. Judging by his forum habits I don't even want to imagine how much tism ends up in guild chat or discord.

[Troxx]

No man … not everyone. Just you.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

cyxthryth, you are not reading. I quoted Troxx precisely where he said his parser bugged. He has said many times his parser is undervaluing DPS, but he hasn't proven it. I also asked for data from him, and he hasn't complied. I am not sure why I am the only one required to provide evidence here, and in a super specific way that isn't necessary.

He did ask for a very specific method for gathering data, but I do not have to comply with his standards of what he thinks proper data is. You can get data the way I did in my videos, you are incorrect if you think otherwise. He doesn't even have the guts to admit his own method for data gathering was valid, because he is blaming the parser for his lower DPS[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And PlsNoBan continues to make himself look awful by insulting and trolling, while pretending I am the problem.

The data:

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cyxthryth, you are not reading. I quoted Troxx precisely where he said his parser bugged. He has said many times his parser is undervaluing DPS, but he hasn't proven it. I also asked for data from him, and he hasn't complied. I am not sure why I am the only one required to provide evidence here lol.

You aren't REQUIRED to provide data in the format Troxx did, but neither was Troxx. But unlike you he was WILLING to. Just curious exactly what reason do you have to not offer what Troxx is willing to offer?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He did ask for a very specific method for gathering data, but I do not have to comply with his standards of what he thinks proper data is. He doesn't even have the guts to admit his own method for data gathering was valid, because he is blaming the parser for his lower DPS[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have to - neither did Troxx, but Troxx was willing. *shrug* Guess you opt out of the direct comparison that Troxx was after? If that's the case, concession accepted. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And PlsNoBan continues to make himself look awful, while pretending I am the problem.

Why do you think he is making himself look bad? Why do you think others are pretending that you are the problem?

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think he is making himself look bad? Why do you think others are pretending that you are the problem?

80 pages of DSM being totally reasonable and making logical points and acting normally then everyone just decided to be mean and call him autistic out of nowhere.

Yep that's exactly what happened

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

80 pages of DSM being totally reasonable and making logical points and acting normally then everyone just decided to be mean and call him autistic out of nowhere.

Yep that's exactly what happened

Yes, I am being logical and reasonable. You can check the post history lol. At least 80% of Troxx's posts (and yours) are memes or insults without any contribution to the topic at hand. Sorry you are making yourself look bad.

The data so far:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I am being logical and reasonable. You can check the post history lol

LOL HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES IT

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Indeed, Troxx is so locked in the corner because his own data shows his DPS is lower than what he thought. he will continue to troll and claim his data is bad, instead of providing correct data[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The actual data so far:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[Troxx]

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You’ve made my lunch hour very entertaining. Oh well … back to work.

Keep on flailing muchacho