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Old 08-30-2022, 09:54 PM
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This is a perfectly valid reason to roll a new Pally. However, I think you will be disappointed if you expect the High Elf to play much differently than the Dwarf. Basically, the only difference you're likely to notice is that you're much more easily encumbered due to the low STR (even with twink gear it will be noticeable).

Honestly, if you want to the sort of "battle healer" vibe, you'd be better off rolling a Dwarf Cleric and twinking with a lot of STR, AC and haste gear, or an Ogre Shaman. I had a Dwarf Cleric with melee gear and leveled him solo mostly meleeing until around level 40. Works way better than you'd expect. A Shaman can face tank/melee decently even longer thanks to slow, DoTs and pet.
I'm not against rolling a High Elf Cleric either, but is it worth playing one at end-game if I don't intend to raid, or raid heavily anyway? At the very least, I don't want to be responsible for a 24-man wipe if one of my CH's is late because of lag.

If that's a possibility as a raiding cleric, I don't want to play one.

As far as gear goes, Crystal Chitin probably still works well, but I'd want a Sarnak Devastator as my weapon, and maybe a Silvery Belt of Contention too.
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:30 PM
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I'm not against rolling a High Elf Cleric either, but is it worth playing one at end-game if I don't intend to raid, or raid heavily anyway? At the very least, I don't want to be responsible for a 24-man wipe if one of my CH's is late because of lag.

If that's a possibility as a raiding cleric, I don't want to play one.

As far as gear goes, Crystal Chitin probably still works well, but I'd want a Sarnak Devastator as my weapon, and maybe a Silvery Belt of Contention too.
Cleric is still very useful and fun outside of raids. Excellent in groups and one half of the most powerful duo in the game (Enc/Clr). Sarnak Devastator would be a lot of fun to level with. But you could also just grab a Poison Wind Censer or Velium Brawl Stick. Silvery Belt would also be nice, but you'd be just as good with Silver Chitin Handwraps if you're primarily meleeing. Also Dwarf is your best bet if you want to level a Cleric with melee, but you could also do a Halfling or Gnome (of Brell-Serilis) to take advantage of the excellent Imbued Dwarven Plate armor set: https://wiki.project1999.com/Dwarven...hanted_Imbued)

I think my Battle Cleric Dwarf had around 200 STR, massive AC and HP, and FBSS haste. Leveled mostly solo in Kurns/Unrest/CoM fighting undead with melee and occasional undead nukes. Felt like a Paladin but with less damage and more healing power.
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:33 PM
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Cleric is still very useful and fun outside of raids. Excellent in groups and one half of the most powerful duo in the game (Enc/Clr). Sarnak Devastator would be a lot of fun to level with. But you could also just grab a Poison Wind Censer or Velium Brawl Stick. Silvery Belt would also be nice, but you'd be just as good with Silver Chitin Handwraps if you're primarily meleeing. Also Dwarf is your best bet if you want to level a Cleric with melee, but you could also do a Halfling or Gnome (of Brell-Serilis) to take advantage of the excellent Imbued Dwarven Plate armor set: https://wiki.project1999.com/Dwarven...hanted_Imbued)

I think my Battle Cleric Dwarf had around 200 STR, massive AC and HP, and FBSS haste. Leveled mostly solo in Kurns/Unrest/CoM fighting undead with melee and occasional undead nukes. Felt like a Paladin but with less damage and more healing power.
I have a Dwarf Pally already so I'd want racial diversity, with no duplicate races (Iksar Monk, Troll SK, Ogre Warrior, Barb Shaman, etc). High Elf is the min/max choice for Cleric I'm assuming, with all points into Wisdom and 5 into Sta? Or is Cha still the way to go for a Cleric?

What I'm thinking:

Crystal Chitin set
Obulus Death Shroud
Crystal Spider Eyes
Silvery Belt of Contention
Withered Leather Bracers, Gorget and Cloak
Sarnak Devastator
Crystal Chitin Shield
Sarnak Prayer Beads
65HP Rings x2
Earring of Purity
Earring of Cleansing

I already have about half of this, the rest would run me approximately 10k or so, and I have about 30k to burn across my toons.
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:37 PM
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The way I see it, I'm conflicted between four options for starting points:

A: 10 Str, 5 Sta, 5 Dex
B: 20 STA
C: 20 WIS
D: 20 CHA
I went 20 WIS on my paladin. Regretted every minute of it as a casual soloer.

I'd probably do what Toxigen did and go with a 20 CHA human paladin build, but that's because I'd specifically be going in the hardest dungeons I could find.

For you, I'd just go 20 strength. Even as a heavy twink, it's no cakewalk to max strength for a solo build.
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Old 08-31-2022, 04:39 AM
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It's honestly not worth rolling a High Elf just for ND and higher CHA. .
It is if you have no plans / capabilities of doing the epic. Absolutely baller weapon for a cheap Hate mq. Tossup between mixed race or pure elf though, just depends on fashion preference.

My twinked human paladin max cha (see signature) was an absolute hoot leveling 1-55. I felt like I had to slam DS pots constantly once I moved from Cazic Thule to Kedge because no matter how you slice it paladin DPS is pure shit...but the only other char I felt safer on was my monk. IIRC that character never died but one time in the hole but I made the mistake of grouping with some less experienced folks. Came to a slog grind after that and I just stopped playing altogether anyway.
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Old 08-31-2022, 08:28 AM
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If you want to level as a Battle Cleric and don't want a Dwarf I'd go Brell Serilis Halfling and use the Dwarven armor for the massive AC and STR/STA. No reason to play a High Elf Cleric if you want to melee. And again, there's not much reason to focus excessively on CHA. It's shockingly easy to raise CHA temporarily for risky lulls with just a handful of cheap items.
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Old 08-31-2022, 02:28 PM
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Is Brell gnome possible to wear dwarf armour with the more handy tinkered clickies?

Iirc halflings follow the church of mischief - not brell.
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Old 08-31-2022, 03:30 PM
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If you want to level as a Battle Cleric and don't want a Dwarf I'd go Brell Serilis Halfling and use the Dwarven armor for the massive AC and STR/STA. No reason to play a High Elf Cleric if you want to melee. And again, there's not much reason to focus excessively on CHA. It's shockingly easy to raise CHA temporarily for risky lulls with just a handful of cheap items.
The melee really only matters until about level 37 or so. At that point the next step up in Paineel guards hit too hard for melee to be efficient anymore, and I'd resort to purely Undead Nukes + Root by then.

Once Guard Pendleir stops giving me exp, the melee no longer really matters. Unless of course I'm duoing with someone, or I have full mana in a group and nothing else to do.
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Old 08-31-2022, 06:08 PM
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The melee really only matters until about level 37 or so. At that point the next step up in Paineel guards hit too hard for melee to be efficient anymore, and I'd resort to purely Undead Nukes + Root by then.

Once Guard Pendleir stops giving me exp, the melee no longer really matters. Unless of course I'm duoing with someone, or I have full mana in a group and nothing else to do.
Yeah, it's not worth meleeing even with a very twinked Cleric past 40 or so. Race is not a huge deal on a Cleric, so if you're dead set on a High Elf you can make it work.
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Old 08-31-2022, 06:47 PM
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Is Brell gnome possible to wear dwarf armour with the more handy tinkered clickies?

Iirc halflings follow the church of mischief - not brell.
Gnome can wear the tinkered armor, it isn't diety specific
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