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Old 08-21-2023, 09:37 PM
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If we are going to go this route, then let's make it that you need to use the classic UI under classic locked resolution and state at your med book till 35. I mean if we want classic may as well go all in right?
I dunno if this is news to you, but p99 runs on the titanium client, which was developed way after the vanilla-velious period. There are some things here they simply cannot change, but the unpaid volunteers try to bypass those limitations as best they can.

Everquest isn't a single player game, and the technology and engineering that the original game was based on is lost to time, so you sound like a doofus complaining about "unclassic changes!!!" and attributing some kind of malicious intent to the p99 devs.
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Old 08-21-2023, 09:39 PM
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There are drop shadows around pc and npc names, the sky\cloud graphics are completely different, the letterbox UI with the tiny viewport isn't available, the boat models look different and you levitate on them! What a bunch of UNCLASSIC changes!!
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Old 08-21-2023, 10:35 PM
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There are drop shadows around pc and npc names, the sky\cloud graphics are completely different, the letterbox UI with the tiny viewport isn't available, the boat models look different and you levitate on them! What a bunch of UNCLASSIC changes!!
You are missing the point. Secrets got boats working fine bro. Fact is it is up to the team here who decides how classic something is. And you can get the classic UI too...it has been out there for a while.
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Old 08-21-2023, 11:36 PM
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You are missing the point. Secrets got boats working fine bro. Fact is it is up to the team here who decides how classic something is. And you can get the classic UI too...it has been out there for a while.
Lol no I'm not missing any points I don't think you understood anything I said
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Old 08-21-2023, 11:44 PM
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You are missing the point. Secrets got boats working fine bro. Fact is it is up to the team here who decides how classic something is. And you can get the classic UI too...it has been out there for a while.
You have an excellent irony meter and no sarcasm gets by you!
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:31 PM
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You have an excellent irony meter and no sarcasm gets by you!
I'm just saying that this is a pick and choose what is classic server. I get that they try their best but there is no consistency.

Unless there is solid, 100% proof that something worked a certain way, don't go by some post made in 2009 when a dev who wrote the code says it is something completely different
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:50 PM
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I'm just saying that this is a pick and choose what is classic server. I get that they try their best but there is no consistency.

Unless there is solid, 100% proof that something worked a certain way, don't go by some post made in 2009 when a dev who wrote the code says it is something completely different
I think you are missing a very relevant point. The original p99 script, I wrote.

So, is your argument I shouldn't choose between 2 different scripts I wrote to determine what is more classic?

If you review the original bug report, it was on a list to revisit, and I did.
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Old 08-23-2023, 02:40 PM
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I think you are missing a very relevant point. The original p99 script, I wrote.

So, is your argument I shouldn't choose between 2 different scripts I wrote to determine what is more classic?

If you review the original bug report, it was on a list to revisit, and I did.
I'm not telling anyone what they should or should not chose. It's your project your rules. However, my main gripe was changing it years after server launch and not waiting until a reset. The original way it spawned is pretty much the way it spawns on every single EMU I played on (mostly Devnoob/Image servers)

My second gripe is what I mentioned before. The AC spawn in OOT is a similar situation where it was never a static spawn but a roaming PH. I know this first hand because I killed it back in 2000 myself after camping it. ZAM pretty much backs it up. This was my point about picking and choosing what is and is not deemed classic.

Again it is your playground, your rules. I am just pointing out what I disagree with.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:14 PM
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My second gripe is what I mentioned before. The AC spawn in OOT is a similar situation where it was never a static spawn but a roaming PH. I know this first hand because I killed it back in 2000 myself after camping it. ZAM pretty much backs it up. This was my point about picking and choosing what is and is not deemed classic.
Oof. If that is true it is a shame you didn’t share your knowledge online at the time instead of jealousy guarding your secret.
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Old 08-23-2023, 09:55 PM
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A look at archive.org provides a huge number of posts describing oot AC as a camp with spawn point matching p1999. https://web.archive.org/web/20060702...09253701221948

The only issue with the spawn here is it seems to be missing one of the PHers - an aqua goblin.
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