Shadow knight aggro

[Guesty07]

You're a troll.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a troll.

Yet again, you have no rebuttal to my previous post. You are just digging yourself deeper, and acting like a child.

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wahhhh everybody is a troll except me wahhhhhh

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't like what you say so you're a troll wahhhhhhhh. Big baby. YOU are the troll, nobody else in this thread. Learn to play everquest better.

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are an armature that I won't give the time of day to. Learn to play better. Bad bad bad tank thinking taunt only has 1 use application. Gooodbye

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What an idiot. Guy really said spamming taunt is BETTER than using it appropriately ROFL

Very clear troll behavior. Factually you are the troll.

[Guesty07]

You are the troll. Your post history is there for all to see.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea that spamming taunt on cool down is advisable because you might get lucky and coincidentally hit it right when you lose agro is one of the most insane tortured rationalizations I've ever come across, even judging by DSM standards.

Let's consider a metaphor:

Imagine your doctor offered you a weekly subscription to a magic pill that would immediately cure a cold, on the condition that it be taken within a few hours of symptoms first appearing. For our purposes this pill is named Taunt. Unfortunately, Taunt has a very short shelf life, and only lasts for about a week and then must be disposed of (consider this a 7 day "cool down"). So with your subscription to Taunt you only ever have one good pill on hand at a time, and in order for it to be effective you must be prepared to take it within a few hours.

By DSM's tortured logic, he would just take the Taunt pill immediately upon receiving it every week, even if he currently has no symptoms, under the justification that he theoretically might get lucky and arrest a cold right as it begins by sheer luck. This, of course, would leave him without the pill for the remainder of the week, during which he would be entirely unprotected should his symptoms emerge during that period. Obviously, this is not an ideal approach.

Hopefully this metaphor illustrates the foolishness of DSM's reasoning and will cause him to reevaluate his thinking on this matter. Any takers on that bet?

He never re evaluates his thinking. If he admits to being wrong, it’s because of an actual game mechanic he either didn’t know or overlooked. When it comes to these types of topics that he thinks are debatable, he pretends he’s some eq philosopher capable of finding truth where nobody else can.

It took him 20 pages to demonstrate what a suboptimal alternative can do. Yes we know taunt spamming has a small chance at success to fire at the exact moment you need it. But the failure is choosing it over just taunting when you need to regain aggro, which is what you should be doing as a tank. The alternative is like saying a shaman should med instead of canni at 60. Just don’t do it unless you are ok with settling with inferiority.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He never re evaluates his thinking. If he admits to being wrong, it’s because of an actual game mechanic he either didn’t know or overlooked. When it comes to these types of topics that he thinks are debatable, he pretends he’s some eq philosopher capable of finding truth where nobody else can.

It took him 20 pages to demonstrate what a suboptimal alternative can do. Yes we know taunt spamming has a small chance at success to fire at the exact moment you need it. But the failure is choosing it over just taunting when you need to regain aggro, which is what you should be doing as a tank. The alternative is like saying a shaman should med instead of canni at 60. Just don’t do it unless you are ok with settling with inferiority.

Lying about other posters is not a valid method of argument. Everything you said about me is trivial to disprove. You continue to hurt yourself while not hurting me. You are simply establishing this repeatable pattern of lying whenever people disagree with you.

Your analogy comparing taunt to medding/cannibalizing is nonsensical on it's face, because both medding and cannibalizing are reliable game mechanics. Taunt is not a reliable game mechanic. It is an apples to oranges comparison. You are also drastically overestimating the opportunity cost of a single lost taunt, which is the worst case when spamming taunt and then switching to strategic use.

Come back when you can address this post, which you have yet to do. I easily rebutted your previous complaints thus far.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=140

At least you agree that spamming taunt is a viable strategy, which is the baseless claim I was rebutting!

[Guesty07]

Weird that everybody agrees with Crede. Ever thought the problem is you?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weird that everybody agrees with Crede. Ever thought the problem is you?

The number of people who agree with someone is irrelevant to the truth. That is an Argumentum Ad Populum argument. Just because 100 people claim the sky is orange, it doesn't mean that is true.

If you think I am wrong, use logic, facts, and evidence to prove your point. Not trolling, lies, and insults like you are currently doing. So far you have yet to provide anything in favor of your opinions.

[Snaggles]

I’ve never said taunt is necessary. As Danth mentioned it’s free and might save a bit of mana if you aren’t chain casting 40-60m taunt spells (since DC is borked). It also might be quicker than it takes for the spell to land once you react to the flip. Unslowed that might save someone a second combat round. If it’s a Jugg that might be 340 damage.

That’s why the Church of MacroTaunt is openly inviting new followers. Leave your false taunt gods behind you and learn of this new and better thing! Amen.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve never said taunt is necessary. As Danth mentioned it’s free and might save a bit of mana if you aren’t chain casting 40-60m taunt spells (since DC is borked). It also might be quicker than it takes for the spell to land once you react to the flip. Unslowed that might save someone a second combat round. If it’s a Jugg that might be 340 damage.

That’s why the Church of MacroTaunt is openly inviting new followers. Leave your false taunt gods behind you and learn of this new and better thing! Amen.

I agree taunt is a usable skill. I don't think anybody has stated otherwise.

People are simply vastly overestimating the opportunity cost of a single taunt being wasted. That seems to be their problem with taunt spamming.

Since taunt is unreliable to begin with, you have to assume the first taunt will fail, even when it doesn't. You can't plan around assuming it will succeed.

[Naethyn]

Warriors over there trying to figure out if they should be punching between swings while shadowknights are debating if they should press taunt.