Bad quest designs

[cd288]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I think the key is that the zones were a lot more populated back there so there was likely groups of people in virtually every zone accross the continent(s). In your example its very likely that this would be something figured out in reverse. People are actively killing PHs (just normal mobs for exp) and a unique mob spawns then it becomes I won't what this mob is for? Or they kill the mob and get the loot then work towards figuring out where the loot goes.

Yeah true, I just don't really remember LFay being that populated besides the sisters and maybe one or two other spots. It was like one of those zones that for whatever reason didn't have that many PUGs in it like other zones...maybe because it's big, long run from end to end, dark, with dangerous mobs wandering around.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dolalin!? Where you been!

Busy with work and family, like most 40 somethings I guess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I gave search engine access to several people in the Bug forums and they've been carrying the torch. Devs have it too, including TAKP devs. So I'm not a single point of failure anymore.

[Trexller]

how has no one mentioned that back in '99, verant devs were active players giving out hints or straight up informing their guild mates of what to do for whatever quest they needed

or that they also patched, nerfed and modified the game to suit their personal play styles

this is how they figured things out so fast, there was nothing organic about it

[Duik]

I heard one was enarmoured with necros and monks (may have been 2 seperate devs but...) so they got lotsa lovin from the loot gods. In 2k (before I knew anything abput what made a class OP) i assumed it was just class envy.
Based on what i know about human nature now i believe Trexller is closer to the truth than a lie.

[enjchanter]

Imagine you spends weeks trying to figure out to spawn the correct level 17 mob in lfay and you finally turn in your quest after many sleepless nights and you get an 8/26 spear with 2 agi

[Trexller]

pre-kunark/planar an 8 dmg piercer is pretty good

it's the best back stabber until planar stuff

that's like saying imagine gearing up in plane of fear for many sleepless nights until ToV drops

the whole game was designed with the intention of retaining monthly paying customers, of course everything is gonna take forever to accomplish, if you got everything done in a month then you aren't gonna keep paying the subscription

this whole thread is a bad quest design

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pre-kunark/planar an 8 dmg piercer is pretty good

it's the best back stabber until planar stuff

that's like saying imagine gearing up in plane of fear for many sleepless nights until ToV drops

the whole game was designed with the intention of retaining monthly paying customers, of course everything is gonna take forever to accomplish, if you got everything done in a month then you aren't gonna keep paying the subscription

this whole thread is a bad quest design

It's not the devs fault if the players missed out on exploring the world.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not the devs fault if the players missed out on exploring the world.

nobody LFGs in runnyeye so that means there is nothing worth killing there!

im just gonna sit semi afk at EC tunnel w/ LFG tag up then complain no one groups

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pre-kunark/planar an 8 dmg piercer is pretty good

it's the best back stabber until planar stuff

that's like saying imagine gearing up in plane of fear for many sleepless nights until ToV drops

the whole game was designed with the intention of retaining monthly paying customers, of course everything is gonna take forever to accomplish, if you got everything done in a month then you aren't gonna keep paying the subscription

this whole thread is a bad quest design

True, although with the expansions I'd say it's a little bit different since the gap between gear you could find in Velious and prior gear was so large. They could've made the upgrades more incremental.

[Tnair]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, although with the expansions I'd say it's a little bit different since the gap between gear you could find in Velious and prior gear was so large. They could've made the upgrades more incremental.

cant stop myself here

9 damage kedge piercer (from the very first room) and vox spear both better piercers before planes