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Old 05-05-2010, 05:32 AM
Weekapaug Weekapaug is offline
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I would like to see some evidence of this "starting STR factors into ATK more heavily than worn/buff STR."

So far, I have seen 2 random people say "i think i remembur it."

Till then, I call bullshit and advise people to stick with max STA in creation with the rest into STR.
It's just a discussion, friend. I'm happy to do some research and see what I can find out. Not because you "call bullshit," you see, but because it would help people to know....You, know, the point of this discussion....on the "discussion" boards. If you would care to be helpful and present some "evidence" to the contrary yourself, then we all would benfit.

In the meantime, it's worth noting that a few people seem to remember this, at very least, being discussed. It may very well be the case. It may not. As I said in the other thread, I was skeptical at the time, and am really fuzzy about the details. But I do remember reading something about it, as do others, and it's entirely worth noting in any discussion about stats, rogue or otherwise.

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I've been at the brink of death too many times in raids to believe anything else is worthwhile.

Also, I *do* top the parses in DPS, while staying alive (barely, sometimes), when many other rogues might (and often do) die. Evaluate that.
As I also said in the other discussion, I went with STA myself and have never regretted it, although I can't ever remember just barely living through a fight and thinking "Boy, I'm really glad I put those exta points into STA" lol, but then I didn't start raiding till long after Velious, so on and on it goes. Hell, the argument could be made that higher ATK or even higher DEX + weapon procs on the rogues involved in an encounter might have meant that the mob would have died sooner sparing them death, and sparing those with high STA from "the bring of death." Not the way I would go, but it's a legitimate standpoint for someone to have, weather you or I agree or not. The only thing to "call bullshit" on, is your attitude, frankly. Nothing personal.

These debates can go round and round ad nauseum. The fact is, it's largely a matter of opinion and your anectdotal evidence is no more or less valid than mine or anyone else's. Why not just discuss the issue civilly and let everyone decide for themselves, eh?
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I would like to see some evidence of this "starting STR factors into ATK more heavily than worn/buff STR."

So far, I have seen 2 random people say "i think i remembur it."

Till then, I call bullshit and advise people to stick with max STA in creation with the rest into STR.

I've been at the brink of death too many times in raids to believe anything else is worthwhile.

Also, I *do* top the parses in DPS, while staying alive (barely, sometimes), when many other rogues might (and often do) die. Evaluate that.
I want the proof that your 200hp is saving you, it's possible, but seems unlikely.
also, not trolling.
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:44 AM
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Stamina!
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:03 AM
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*double post*
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:32 AM
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From what I remember the suggested STA at creation is 100. From there you can get the HP needed to stand up to raid AoEs.
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