Discussion: Play Nice (Training, Bind Camping)

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the governing rule on RZ live wasn't training, but moreso clear and intentional XP loss.

This makes a lot of sense.

[Nirgon]

Any time mobs become involved in PvP, there will be screams for bans and people that are banned/leave/accuse GM favoritism on a pvp server.

The no training rule exists on live and people don't seem to be getting away with it in cases that aren't grey areas or accidents.

[Darwoth]

less rules the better, training always has and always will be part of eq pvp regardless of the rules (wasnt allowed on rz)

problem is that usually the guy retaliating is the one caught and punished, an SZ anything goes ruleset is the best.

if someone binds next to a spawn im trying to camp/xp on what am i supposed to do? kill him then let him med up and shit on my face because killing him again is against the rules?

the only rules should be no third party programs, simplifies the workload and keeps things fair.

[Billbike]

Policing training is like policing marijuana. Seems good on paper, but in practice it fails.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Billbike [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Policing training is like policing marijuana. Seems good on paper, but in practice it fails.

What a fail analogy.

[Billbike]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a fail analogy.

Training will happen everyday. If training is policed, GMs will be overwhelmed with QQ allday everyday. People will be falsely accused and punished. GMs will be accused of favoritism. It will be a huge waste of resources, like what I said in my analogy.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a fail analogy.

Heard your guild got griefed off the server...

http://youtu.be/_6wzsIh93qc

Lethdar, the guy that doesnt want trains... cause he could never camp pixels. The guy that doesnt want pumice, so he can camp Golem wands.

U sound blue homie. I got a 54 warrior on P99 and can prolly get you into TMO if you wanna do it up.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Darwoth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

less rules the better, training always has and always will be part of eq pvp regardless of the rules (wasnt allowed on rz)

problem is that usually the guy retaliating is the one caught and punished, an SZ anything goes ruleset is the best.

if someone binds next to a spawn im trying to camp/xp on what am i supposed to do? kill him then let him med up and shit on my face because killing him again is against the rules?

the only rules should be no third party programs, simplifies the workload and keeps things fair.

In this case, bindpoint camping should not be an issue. You'd be hard pressed to find a GM that would take action against you for this (hopefully).

Originally Posted by Billbike [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Policing training is like policing marijuana. Seems good on paper, but in practice it fails.

:/

Marijuana is a victimless crime, training is not. Not a very good comparison.

[Lovely]

No one seem to give a flying shit about the training rules on beta. Everytime you head to lguk for pvp there are trains all over the place

[juicedsixfo]

Originally Posted by Lovely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one seem to give a flying shit about the training rules on beta. Everytime you head to lguk for pvp there are trains all over the place

Lets use some common sense here. The GMs aren't going to bother with 200 petitions a day from guk, unrest, etc.

The training rule will come in to play when a guild petitions that they were forming up to engage a boss mob, and one bard from an opposing guild zoned in and wiped them. The GMs can check the log, verify, and bam – you're done. That's what the rule is for primarily. It's not for zone battle bullshit. Though, if you bring all of guk with you to Lord room and FD as a monk on top of a group, I'm sure that will be grounds as well. Rule No. 1 – If you get trained, take screenshots, post it, see what happens, deal with it.