Gluten-free is a scam to sell more corn and corn accessories

[loramin]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the most part its not the products/ingredients that are the issue. At least for folks in the US, which is the majority of the community. The real issue is the processing and genetic altering.

Its why people that identify as having gluten allergy/sensitivity can often consume wheat products over seas without issue but virtually all of those products in the US make them feel like shit when consumed.

My wife suffers from many food allergies in the US often resulting in pain and discomfort from eating, making restaurant food virtually inedible. Yet when we travel outside of the US all the things that make her feel like death or immediately run to the bathroom are just fine elsewhere, with rare exception.

No disrespect, but that's not how allergies work.

If you could process (or not process) some allergens in a way that made them safe to eat (in Europe or anywhere else), you could make billions of dollars selling food to people that otherwise couldn't eat it. People who have been allergic to peanuts, eggs, fish, etc. would be throwing money at you ... but again, that's now how allergies work.

Now, I'm not saying there isn't truth to what you're saying, as we do process some foods very differently here vs. other countries. For instance, Europe handles salmonella in eggs the proper way (by preventing it at the source), while America handles it by allowing the salmonella to grow, and then washing it off the egg's exterior ... which is why we need to keep our eggs refrigerated, while the Europeans don't.

All I'm saying is that, whatever we do in America to piss off your wife's digestive/immune/whatever system ... it isn't about allergies to the food she's eating.

P.S. There are plenty of food-based illnesses that aren't allergies. For instance, I can't eat peanuts, but I don't die if I eat them (as I would if I was allergic) ... I just vomit and feel miserable for hours afterward.

[WarpathEQ]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No disrespect, but that's not how allergies work.

If you could process (or not process) some allergens in a way that made them safe to eat (in Europe or anywhere else), you could make billions of dollars selling food to people that otherwise couldn't eat it. People who have been allergic to peanuts, eggs, fish, etc. would be throwing money at you ... but again, that's now how allergies work.

Now, I'm not saying there isn't truth to what you're saying, as we do process some foods very differently here vs. other countries. For instance, Europe handles salmonella in eggs the proper way (by preventing it at the source), while America handles it by allowing the salmonella to grow, and then washing it off the egg's exterior ... which is why we need to keep our eggs refrigerated, while the Europeans don't.

All I'm saying is that, whatever we do in America to piss off your wife's digestive/immune/whatever system ... it isn't about allergies to the food she's eating.

P.S. There are plenty of food-based illnesses that aren't allergies. For instance, I can't eat peanuts, but I don't die if I eat them (as I would if I was allergic) ... I just vomit and feel miserable for hours afterward.

I think we're aligned on the underlying concern. My point was more that the wheat/gluten allergy that most people have in the US now isn't actually a wheat/gluten allergy, its a misdiagnosis or misunderstanding of the root of the issues and that those individuals can consume wheat/gluten without issue under different standards of processing or versions that haven't been genetically altered in a lab to promote profit over health.

You also make a great point that allergy is probably the wrong word for all of this stuff as generally the types of "allergies" we're referring to (we being society as a whole) are really just circumstances leading to illness or discomfort and not truly a life threatening outcome as a true allergy could have.

[shovelquest]

Well something in the food in europe is turning people retarded.

[Ephirith]

Ye if one is systematically getting ill from american food, but nowhere else, and it's not some kind of confirmation bias/illusory correlation, there's a good chance it has to do with our incredibly lax standards for the kind of nasty chemicals, antimicrobials, bulking agents, and other additives for viscosity, shelf life, color, texture, etc etc etc... to maximize profit. Because our laws and regulations are written by special interests, power players, and corporations to a greater extent than most of our peer countries.

It's very fun, the amount of shit you can dump in a product in the US and still write organic on the box

[shovelquest]

man if gluten causes all these problems imagine what the shit we put in vaccines do! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[atomicpaul]

you get a vaccine every now and then, maybe but you gotta eat most every day

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you get a vaccine every now and then, maybe but you gotta eat most every day

Our bodies are designed to consume food.

Not to be injected with things we cant pronounce or know what they are.

Food you can tell almost immediately if you should or shouldn't be eating it, we're evolved to be able to tell.

You may not notice yourself puffing up like a balloon the more you eat but I do.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our bodies are designed to consume food.

Not to be injected with things we cant pronounce or know what they are.

Food you can tell almost immediately if you should or shouldn't be eating it, we're evolved to be able to tell.

You may not notice yourself puffing up like a balloon the more you eat but I do.

our bodies are designed to build up resilience to invasive foreign bodies

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our bodies are designed to build up resilience to invasive foreign bodies

Corn, without nixtamalization, will give you Peel's Brimstone.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This reminds me of that crazy Republican senator who legitimately thought woman had a built-in "abort rape babies" mechanism.

You calling jimjam a republican senator?

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our bodies are designed to build up resilience to invasive foreign bodies