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Old 09-02-2011, 12:01 PM
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mages level really fast, especially if you are just starting. every 4 levels your pet can flat out solo mobs for you, and all you have to do is shield/heal it (and occasionally nuke). I really had no problems defeating yellow con mobs for a long time with a mage.

necro. I don't know as much about them. Can they fight off yellow con mobs? having FeignDeath is pretty nice though.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:19 PM
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mages level really fast, especially if you are just starting. every 4 levels your pet can flat out solo mobs for you, and all you have to do is shield/heal it (and occasionally nuke). I really had no problems defeating yellow con mobs for a long time with a mage.

necro. I don't know as much about them. Can they fight off yellow con mobs? having FeignDeath is pretty nice though.
yellow, red if you can land a snare on it.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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if you are gonna base the soloability of necros and mages on seafury island. then i'll out kill them on seafuries at 50 any day on a necro (only class i seen that could kill them faster, more efficient is an enchanter).

Charm dark blue spectre then snare fear and own (root rot adds).


Haven't done much there since kunark but it's still pretty lol with rogue pet or monk pet.


as far as soloing 1-50. I could do it faster as a necro than a mage. That, however, is because i'm way better with a necro and i also know what camps/areas my necro will excel at.

That being said. Necros, if played well, can solo camps for loot and xp(dungeon bonus wut?!?) and out level a mage easily. The slow levels are the early levels, after that and you get some tricks, it's smooth sailing. A mage could do the same camps (most of the time) if they are pre-broke for them (but you can't afford a mistake).
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:29 PM
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Like Feachie said
yellow cons? try reds and undercons. run to max range, snare, if resisted, FD, and repeat, once snare lands its over. obviously there is a limit to how red the mob can be.
OR.. if you're feeling ballsy, charm an undead monk, buff it, and use it to kill a 50+ mob.

When farming hg's, who takes down boorg bloodbeard?
never even saw a mage attempt it
btw, you're welcome for always freeing up that extra hg spawn

as for leveling, 20+ as a necro was simple, 30-40 was a joke, and 40-50+ less of a joke, but a lot of fun.
once you hit 34 and get root, soloing becomes trivial.

30ish-40 I did a 4 spawn rotation, with the occasional roaming mob.
I could kill the 4 mobs with over a minute left to repop, if it was a rotation without the roamer, I would gain 5-10% mana.
throw in gnoll whips and your mana is spilling out of its bar.

To any aspiring necros reading this[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]While leveling)
Dont waste mana, a lot of necros I've seen overkill their mobs
Snare, pet attack, lvl 1 disease cloud is enough to keep agro for most of the fight, if pet gains agro, tap, or reapply dot.
you just killed a mob using an insignificant amount of mana, especially with a lich line spell active.
Dont be scared to use a minimal amount of mana to keep taunt, remember, you are always in control of agro, and can take it off your pet at any time.
..... and... dont even buy fear....

Eventually you will have to group/get bored of soloing
DPS, Mod rods, eventually CoH and some other utilities
or DPS, Mana dumps, minor healing abilities, backup CC/primary CC-depends on situation, eventual emergency rez, backup puller, FD and some other utilities

I did 1-50 naked on my necro(Damask robe and giant snake fang only), Only got gear so I could group/raid
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:57 PM
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Mage will level to 50 quicker. Think I did whatever till 18, EK spiders till 24, Highkeep guards/goblins till 41, then can do like oggok/freeport guards to 50. Lots of other options of course, I just chose these because I was lazy.

Make sure you do at least 1 point of damage to whatever you are fighting, let the pet(fire) do the rest. Get the Torch of Alna asap, should have enough cash from killing guards to just buy the items relatively early on.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:01 PM
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Mage --> 50 can be faster than necro if you stay in the right area, but typically necros are faster still.

Necro is WAY faster past 50.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:32 PM
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Before they changed resists, my necro was consistently landing darkness on reds and heat blood was never resisted (it's not really now either). Came in very handy when camping Saben Tucross at 17 and both millers at 19...
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:03 PM
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mages will out lvl a necro any day, if you arent, your playing the mage wrong.

necros have a ton of sick skills at 50+ (fd, rez, heals, all kinds of shit) but ultimately your doing the exact same thing as a mage in a raid: giving your mana to healers and pressing pet attack. any necro who tries to glorify their class and say this isnt true is in a deep state of denial.
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mages will out lvl a necro any day, if you arent, your playing the mage wrong.

necros have a ton of sick skills at 50+ (fd, rez, heals, all kinds of shit) but ultimately your doing the exact same thing as a mage in a raid: giving your mana to healers and pressing pet attack. any necro who tries to glorify their class and say this isnt true is in a deep state of denial.
Raids? Yes. Groups? Necros add crazy utility while played correctly.
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mages will out lvl a necro any day, if you arent, your playing the mage wrong.

necros have a ton of sick skills at 50+ (fd, rez, heals, all kinds of shit) but ultimately your doing the exact same thing as a mage in a raid: giving your mana to healers and pressing pet attack. any necro who tries to glorify their class and say this isnt true is in a deep state of denial.
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Necros get all that before 50

Depends on what raid you are doing. I've done CC, Charming dps, Pulling, CRs, and trained when needed. (granted you can do some form of this as a mage, but not anywhere near effective) In sky the mass majority of necros will be doing the same thing as a mage yes, but it's a boring place anyhow for necros.
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