Trader exemption, thoughts? - Page 2

Loke · #1 09-26-2011, 10:34 AM

I guess I don't really agree with the "classic" argument because in classic I often mutli-box'd both to experience and to trade. Limiting players to one play character is already non-classic (not arguing against it, as I said in my first post). If anything, reducing the restrictions of the anti-2boxing rule (i.e. allowing traders) would actually make the game MORE classic.

I don't necessarily disagree with you guys - I just think that the importance of the 2boxing rules are limited mostly to the fact that they promote grouping and social interaction. Reducing what a player is able to accomplish while online (i.e. trade and level) to my knowledge was not one of the intended reasons for implementing the 2boxing rules. I guess it is from that perspective that I felt this would be a good idea: keeping the social benefits the rule gives us but doing away with the restrictions on activities not tied directly to social interaction.

Baa · #2 09-26-2011, 10:34 AM

I love EC, however the only time I can actually really trade there is sat and sun mornings (GMT +8) - I don't think I would want to have a trade mule sitting there however I would not mind seeing a global trade chat again... I know it is not classic and prob won't happen but I can always dream!

Loke · #3 09-26-2011, 10:51 AM

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I love EC, however the only time I can actually really trade there is sat and sun mornings (GMT +8) - I don't think I would want to have a trade mule sitting there however I would not mind seeing a global trade chat again... I know it is not classic and prob won't happen but I can always dream!

I honestly would support a global trade channel too (especially if it were something you could opt to join or not). While I understand it isn't classic, it wouldn't be an issue if not for other non-classic aspects of the server. Having the ability to join/leave would also allow players who disliked the non-classic feel of it to opt out (if trading moved there completely, the player in search of their classic feel would just have to join upon entering EC I guess).

I'm not trying to complain - it is just that there are few things that bother me more about P99 than having to sit in EC and try to sell stuff, or pay someone else a cut of my items value to sell them for me (both of which are non-classic experiences for me).

A global channel seems like a much easier way to accomplish the same goal of allowing a multibox'd trader, without the issues of abuse or difficulty with setting up.

Palemoon · #4 09-26-2011, 03:24 PM

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Time management is an important part of classic EQ. This would break the game. As another poster mentioned people would be toggling and not pay atention to their group. Essentialy you would be instituting a bazaar with anon afk sell bots.

Which is why I was not pleased to hear they are going to allow you to play on blue99 and red99 at the same time.

XPing on your red99 toon and alt tabbing to your trader every now and then to spam some auction lines in EC along with the other 200 people doing the same thing.

Or even better, camp your raid mob with your afk guild while you are really all playing on red99. Its gonna take poop socking on blue to a whole NEW level. joy

Vidrata · #5 09-26-2011, 03:26 PM

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Which is why I was not pleased to hear they are going to allow you to play on blue99 and red99 at the same time.

XPing on your red99 toon and alt tabbing to your trader every now and then to spam some auction lines in EC along with the other 200 people doing the same thing.

Or even better, camp your raid mob with your afk guild while you are really all playing on red99. Its gonna take poop socking on blue to a whole NEW level. joy

omg, not classic!

Aadill · #6 09-26-2011, 10:21 AM

The main difference between those other activities and trading are that none of them provide an in-game benefit; I cannot make money AND get EXP by watching The Mighty Ducks II.

Frankly if this rule were allowed I'd rather have bazaar put into place where the character is literally stuck in one zone and you'd have to deliver the items to the merchant. With the advent of the new P99 price wiki that Ravhin is working on, pricing wouldn't go out of control if people did some research and the best of both worlds could be attained. The problem is that requires a means to make all of that happen (easily doable) that the staff doesn't want to spend time on because they've already made their decision.

Aadill · #7 09-26-2011, 10:52 AM

At one point Rogean *was* working on getting chat channels working.

pickled_heretic · #8 09-26-2011, 10:55 AM

i dislike pretty much everything about EC. I guess I prefer the exploration and discovery aspect to MMOs and generally trading just gets in the way of it. I would much rather have a bazaar or AH instead of the current system.

Failing that, I would definitely not be in favor of a system that endorsed the haggle barons we have today in EC. It's not something that I, or many players would choose to take advantage of. If they want to do it, fine, but they shouldn't be able to do it while they're grouped with me, dividing their attention. I have to devote my whole attention to my current task, they should also.

Vidrata · #9 09-26-2011, 03:12 PM

I wish two boxing was allowed, then I wouldnt have to bug my other half to have eq open in the background when I play while she's doing stuff on her computer =P

Also, Im gonna have to say no to global channels. I prefer the feeling of being "alone" when Im out far away with no one else in the zone to shout at. Global channels diminish the "size" of the world by always being connected to everyone else. Guild/group channels are somewhat different due to the size of your guild; it could be busy or empty.

Loke · #10 09-26-2011, 06:56 PM

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Also, Im gonna have to say no to global channels. I prefer the feeling of being "alone" when Im out far away with no one else in the zone to shout at. Global channels diminish the "size" of the world by always being connected to everyone else. Guild/group channels are somewhat different due to the size of your guild; it could be busy or empty.

Even in an opt in/out situation? You can still feel alone by just not joining them...