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Old 09-29-2011, 06:08 AM
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Alright, lets break this down.

The lowest level any class can get the spell Endure Magic is 19. So pre level 20, mages have free reign to kill anyone they want. This is, of course, assuming that a 20 MR buff that can be dispelled will save you, which, given the current resist modifier on the earth pet's root, I'm betting won't unless its a pet much lower level than you.

Do you know why mages weren't given root? Because their damage output between their pet and nukes is insane. If they have a reliable CC like root at any given time, there is no reason to play any other class.
Just because you dont have endure magic doesnt mean you can't root/fear/snare/mez/etc.

lol @ "Free reign to kill whoever they want" if that was so I assure you I would've been corpse camped many times.

I usually opened up PvP with a blind on the mage, fear on the pet then root the mage and nuke them down while casting additional blinds on the mage and additional roots/fear on the pet.

Really not that complicated considering MOST casters get at least root/snare/fear/mez/blind or some spells along those lines.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:24 AM
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Let mages have their hay day. They suck later on. The pet is very CC-able and their cast times are very long. They have no way to heal themselves. When you get some MR, the earth pet will not root you.
how can you be so dumb?! sometimes it hurts.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:41 AM
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Let mages have their hay day.
Sit down and let me explain the purpose of beta testing...
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:50 AM
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Sit down and let me explain the purpose of beta testing...
I'm pretty sure the mage pet root has a modifier on it since they are so much more lower than the mobs they are fighting - giving them a better chance to root shit.

I remember it landing all the time at low levels on SZ, but this was during velious. Not sure how it was classic.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:56 AM
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And I'm saying that someone who just admitted he's never played on a pvp server probably shouldn't be acting like he knows the ins and outs of how an classic emulator pvp should be tweaked.

My comment was also directed at the lower levels. I said pre-20 they will dominate with the current resist system, implying levels 1-19. You're talking about your pvp experiences at level 20. Not only did I say pre-20, but I said this only as a marker of endure magic, which is something you referenced as needing against mage pets. Which, btw, is laughable.

Taking my remarks out of context doesn't make you look any more knowledgeable. At level 20, as a class who is probably the best prepared to face a mage 1v1, you do ok. We get it. It's also not what I was talking about at all.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:00 AM
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And I'm saying that someone who just admitted he's never played on a pvp server probably shouldn't be acting like he knows the ins and outs of how an classic emulator pvp should be tweaked.

My comment was also directed at the lower levels. I said pre-20 they will dominate with the current resist system, implying levels 1-19. You're talking about your pvp experiences at level 20. Not only did I say pre-20, but I said this only as a marker of endure magic, which is something you referenced as needing against mage pets. Which, btw, is laughable.

Taking my remarks out of context doesn't make you look any more knowledgeable. At level 20, as a class who is probably the best prepared to face a mage 1v1, you do ok. We get it. It's also not what I was talking about at all.
nothing to really say except all of those encounters were pre-level 20 (haven't PvP'd in about 5-6 levels) and I *heard* Endure Magic helps since the root is magic based.
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Old 09-29-2011, 09:29 AM
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Seems fine to me. I was resisting it quite a bit.

Me: 10 rogue 25MR
8 mage: Earth Pet

I would say I resisted it 2/4 times, when it landed it might have been for about 6 seconds or a bit more. Seems fair enough to me.
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Old 09-29-2011, 10:10 AM
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World of Warcraft's pvp balance nerfs, that what this thread smells like, and a trace amount of redtard vs blue99.

You will never be happy if you can't even stand your pre-20 pvp game.
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:37 AM
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This is a code bug, the elemental pet is probably improperly set as an NPC type, pets are suppose to have a PC resist check, that's why their spells are landing better than a PC's.
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Old 09-29-2011, 01:03 PM
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This is a code bug, the elemental pet is probably improperly set as an NPC type, pets are suppose to have a PC resist check, that's why their spells are landing better than a PC's.
This right here. PCs do NOT land spells with the frequency that equal leveled pets do at this moment.

I'll be leveling a mage to test this shit myself, since it seems like not many people are willing to actually test during this beta.

PM me if you want to level at the same time to test resist rates, else I'll just run around ganking people to do so *shrug*
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