TMO Wipe with 60 on GORE

[Troglodyte]

didn't mean to be anon jen hehe, accidently posted on my R99 account name [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fraggle]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not quite the same, but okay.

Yeah because it didn't happen shortly after DA's spawn timer cheating/hacking showeq scandal/bannings/multiple raid suspensions where shitloads of DA players quit and the guild's reputation went terrible to worse right? Totally different, right? I see.

Thanks for your input spastic TMO guy.

[Fists]

As a DA member during that time... it was exactly the same if not worse Auto. We were joined with VD in sky, fear, and hate. As well as us joining with TMO for 4-5 weeks PRIOR to the merger.

[JenJen]

quite possibly the most retarded thing autotune has ever said, ever.

[Loke]

I disagree. I personally don't think cheating really affected them, and really, how cheating is viewed on this server is different than it was before imo. The mass suspension really brought into light what a lot of people already knew but didn't talk about. Anyone who pretended to be surprised by all the cheating is full of shit - everyone always knew, but pretended they didn't. Not just in one guild or another, but really any guild that has held a #1 or #2 spot (IB, DA, TR, Transcendence, and TMO are only 6 I can think of) - so don't take this as me trashing one side or another. The difference was that before it was always 1 or 2 people at a time, so the rest just naturally admonish the banned individuals and went on with business as usual. But people would have to have been naive as shit to think cheating wasn't as wide spread as the suspension show us it was.

That being said, I think everyone has bit of a guilty conscious, even if they don't really know it (subconscious guilt!) about the whole thing. Because of that guilt, I feel that the atmosphere of the server is a bit more forgiving of it. I mean, these weren't just random people that got cheating - this is a really social game and people form fairly close friendships. A big part of those kind of relationships is forgiving people. I know that sounds lame as shit - but even on the guide application this kind of stuff is acknowledge. There is a question on there about if you caught a friend hacking - I mean, anyone who isn't a bag of dicks as a friend wouldn't sincerely turn their friend in. They'd be like "hey cock, stop cheating or you're going to get banned. Never again." problem solved.

So yea, with the revelation that cheating was wide spread, even among your own ranks and people you consider friends - I don't get them impression anyone sincerely holds the same intense grudges over it that they did before.

TR's dwindling numbers is from the same thing it always is. They've sufficiently beaten the available content, and only the most dedicated are still around. 99% of that guild is keyed, and they probably have alts keyed. Most full members are best-in-slot for 90% of their items, and the remaining items are either ultra-rare or really minor upgrades. They have no real reason to log on other than cock blocking the competition from keys and filling up the guild bank. I mean, 1/2 the ones that log on now probably only log on because they're sick of the competition bragging about getting mobs. Once VP is released, just like with Sky, and just like with Kunark, their members will return and recruitment will spike. Always has, always will.

[Moonface]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. I personally don't think cheating really affected them, and really, how cheating is viewed on this server is different than it was before imo. The mass suspension really brought into light what a lot of people already knew but didn't talk about. Anyone who pretended to be surprised by all the cheating is full of shit - everyone always knew, but pretended they didn't. Not just in one guild or another, but really any guild that has held a #1 or #2 spot (IB, DA, TR, Transcendence, and TMO are only 6 I can think of) - so don't take this as me trashing one side or another. The difference was that before it was always 1 or 2 people at a time, so the rest just naturally admonish the banned individuals and went on with business as usual. But people would have to have been naive as shit to think cheating wasn't as wide spread as the suspension show us it was.

That being said, I think everyone has bit of a guilty conscious, even if they don't really know it (subconscious guilt!) about the whole thing. Because of that guilt, I feel that the atmosphere of the server is a bit more forgiving of it. I mean, these weren't just random people that got cheating - this is a really social game and people form fairly close friendships. A big part of those kind of relationships is forgiving people. I know that sounds lame as shit - but even on the guide application this kind of stuff is acknowledge. There is a question on there about if you caught a friend hacking - I mean, anyone who isn't a bag of dicks as a friend wouldn't sincerely turn their friend in. They'd be like "hey cock, stop cheating or you're going to get banned. Never again." problem solved.

So yea, with the revelation that cheating was wide spread, even among your own ranks and people you consider friends - I don't get them impression anyone sincerely holds the same intense grudges over it that they did before.

TR's dwindling numbers is from the same thing it always is. They've sufficiently beaten the available content, and only the most dedicated are still around. 99% of that guild is keyed, and they probably have alts keyed. Most full members are best-in-slot for 90% of their items, and the remaining items are either ultra-rare or really minor upgrades. They have no real reason to log on other than cock blocking the competition from keys and filling up the guild bank. I mean, 1/2 the ones that log on now probably only log on because they're sick of the competition bragging about getting mobs. Once VP is released, just like with Sky, and just like with Kunark, their members will return and recruitment will spike. Always has, always will.

Cool novel Loke, you cheating nub.

[JenJen]

you say always has, always will, but this time round won't TMO catch up and be on an even footing with regards VP keys/best in slot gear and with higher numbers?

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Uaellaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

really? you tried to be stealin camps, GM came, you babbled him into a roll, you rolled and lost, i left, the person needing the key piece got it shortly after ... also we came like 3 minutes appart from each others, if you felt that it was "at the same time" your drugs must be awesome to reduce your reaction time to 180 seconds ... keep it going

No, You fuckers ran up basicly stepping on eachother like when you zone into a zone with may people still at the zoneline, sebilis for example , people waill litterally stand on top of eachother when they zone in at that location. This is fine, but you assholes were moving like 4 deep.

Then the guide came in said oh ill check some logs, he couldnt figure out dogshit from the logs, and then he said well just roll. Gwence had no prob with this because hes a stupid fucking cunt that didnt have rights to the camp anyway. And thats why the gm decision was overruled, because you fucking idiots broke and tried to bend the rules.

Suck my cock uullaen you fat ugly son of a whore.

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. I personally don't think cheating really affected them, and really, how cheating is viewed on this server is different than it was before imo. The mass suspension really brought into light what a lot of people already knew but didn't talk about. Anyone who pretended to be surprised by all the cheating is full of shit - everyone always knew, but pretended they didn't. Not just in one guild or another, but really any guild that has held a #1 or #2 spot (IB, DA, TR, Transcendence, and TMO are only 6 I can think of) - so don't take this as me trashing one side or another. The difference was that before it was always 1 or 2 people at a time, so the rest just naturally admonish the banned individuals and went on with business as usual. But people would have to have been naive as shit to think cheating wasn't as wide spread as the suspension show us it was.

That being said, I think everyone has bit of a guilty conscious, even if they don't really know it (subconscious guilt!) about the whole thing. Because of that guilt, I feel that the atmosphere of the server is a bit more forgiving of it. I mean, these weren't just random people that got cheating - this is a really social game and people form fairly close friendships. A big part of those kind of relationships is forgiving people. I know that sounds lame as shit - but even on the guide application this kind of stuff is acknowledge. There is a question on there about if you caught a friend hacking - I mean, anyone who isn't a bag of dicks as a friend wouldn't sincerely turn their friend in. They'd be like "hey cock, stop cheating or you're going to get banned. Never again." problem solved.

So yea, with the revelation that cheating was wide spread, even among your own ranks and people you consider friends - I don't get them impression anyone sincerely holds the same intense grudges over it that they did before.

TR's dwindling numbers is from the same thing it always is. They've sufficiently beaten the available content, and only the most dedicated are still around. 99% of that guild is keyed, and they probably have alts keyed. Most full members are best-in-slot for 90% of their items, and the remaining items are either ultra-rare or really minor upgrades. They have no real reason to log on other than cock blocking the competition from keys and filling up the guild bank. I mean, 1/2 the ones that log on now probably only log on because they're sick of the competition bragging about getting mobs. Once VP is released, just like with Sky, and just like with Kunark, their members will return and recruitment will spike. Always has, always will.

Thx for the wall of text you cheating scum fuck.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Moonface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool novel Loke, you cheating nub.

Just sharing my gift with the world. I'm glad you liked it!

Thinking of changing my pen name to S.M. Loke. I feel it gives me that authory pretentiousness, and S & M as initials because they're both one higher than R & L respectively in the alphabet, so like, it would be kind of like a backhanded acknowledgment/compliment to R.L. Stine. You know, like imitation is the best compliment, but you're only doing it to literally one up the guy?

Unless you were being sarcastic about my novel being cool, in which case never mind.