Ventrilo: Did it progress or destroy the MMORPG experience?

[pickled_heretic]

the difference between a voip server and ingame chat is pretty severe. you're usually only talking with guildmates or people you wanted to talk to in the first place on a voip server. if you can't be sociable with your guild over voip because you feel they are too immature, that either sounds like a personal problem or you joined the wrong guild.

[Fultun]

Or maybe I was making a general comment about the maturity level of the chat in game at most times.

[usedtobejubaloftorv]

I consider the lack of voice chat to be part of the hardcore difficulty factor that makes EQ appealing... and my experience is also that it was a lot easier to have a group of people act together in a disciplined manner WITHOUT voice than with it. With a voice channel there's always that one guy who uses it to distract rather than coordinate - maybe he just can't help himself but that's small consolation when you're picking up coffins in Neriak.

People with raid leadership experience both with and without voice chat will know what I mean... voice is a VERY mixed blessing for a raid/guild and can cause more problems than it can solve.

[HawkMasterson1999]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vent is a third party program that has nothing to do with EQ itself - it's not part of the client. Your analogy is really stupid.

I'm sure the GM's will apologize for not being able to annihilate new technology to help emulate the classic experience for you.

My statement was never an analogy. Your failed observation is really stupid.

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. I'm also incredibly surprised at how lazy or non-resourceful so many of the players are.

"omg how do I get 2 kelethin i'm in the middle of a forest"
Me: "Google EQAtlas"


I'm actually doing them a favor, but they sometimes take it as a huge insult.

Oh, and edit to defend Mardur/Reiker from some jackass:

Don't be a dick. Just tell him a /loc if your anywhere near town. Haven't you ever asked a guy on the street what time it was? If he told me to go find my own clock i'd have to tell him to go f**k himself

[pickled_heretic]

using VOIP while playing everquest was never a bannable offense. analogies or not, the anger you direct against VOIP is irrational and pointless.

[Rasah]

It is an advancement if everyone is using Vent. If only half the people are using vent, then it ruined the game.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Rasah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is an advancement if everyone is using Vent. If only half the people are using vent, then it ruined the game.

wut

[EnnoiaII]

For EverQuest I never liked live voice chat, but the game was so simple before voice chat was available to everyone that it wasn't necessary. Games like WoW where mechanics are a bit more complicated on boss fights made it a requirement. For things like WoW PvP or League of Legends, it's a necessity. You can't afford to be typing out commands in those type of games.

As far as whether or not it 'ruined' MMO gaming...I don't think it had an effect either way.

[Rasah]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wut

If everyone is using vent, it makes communication faster.

If only half the people are using vent, the people using it forget to tell the people that are not using it, and everything is a clusterf*ck. I see it happen every day.

That's wut.

[HawkMasterson1999]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

using VOIP while playing everquest was never a bannable offense. analogies or not, the anger you direct against VOIP is irrational and pointless.

I was never angry with VOIP. I just don't think it has a proper place in "classic" everquest.

I am a little annoyed at having somebody call my comments stupid. That's probably what you are picking up on.