TMO adds Talendor to the endangered dragon list

[Qadosx]

Well then don't say that I did, lol.

Qados and pals trained on us for taking "their" Tranix

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're ignoring the fact that people outside of US EST/PST prime time play this game.

If there were no variance at all, the same people whose scheduled matched up with the spawn would be there each week. People that live/work in different time zones/schedules would be out of luck. With a variance, any guild has a chance at stuff like Maestro/Innoruuk during a normal Hate clear. Just like draco/CT in Fear.

So? The point of this server is to emulate classic Everquest, am I right? Variance is not classic. Patch days once per week (and the resulting server resets) are classic.

Who benefits from this is not really the point.

[Cash]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The time I snagged sev for Taken, i think TMO might of had 4-5 people on Sev or healing. Taken did all the damage and was free to take all the loot. Not True Not sure how Talendor played out, but it looks like TMO did exactly what it said it would do.

Considering TMO's past workings with Taken and how things work out well between them (without having to do everything for them like IB did for VD) I am not surprised TMO assisted Taken.

When something is spawned and you race another guild, you don't have time to debate about who is doing what with who. You choose what is most likely to work and go with it. Seems the obvious choice would be to work with Taken.

Grats Taken and sorry others feel so slighted. (well not really, couldn't give a shit less if you're sad you didn't get handed loot tbh)

The not true was obviously added in by me as can be seen by screenshots... however the other bold text directly quoted doesn't quite match this video Talendor Kill considering it seems TMO vastly outnumbers Taken as it should appear obvious without TMO Taken would not have gotten any loot/kill. There is no problem with this, however trying to put up some sort of facade as if they aren't your version of VD or your relationship with them isn't similar to that of the IB/VD is wherein lies the hilarity of the situation. I am sure your other line will end up coming true as VD begins to try and raid again, the one where you imply that Taken would get all the targets if you wanted it that way.

TMO members have all said it... you don't really need loot and it is going to waste on many kills so you are bound to help stack the guild/players of your choosing which so far is Taken. The exact concept IB used with VD, so let's not pretend otherwise.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Cash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The not true was obviously added in by me as can be seen by screenshots... however the other bold text directly quoted doesn't quite match this video Talendor Kill considering it seems TMO vastly outnumbers Taken as it should appear obvious without TMO Taken would not have gotten any loot/kill. There is no problem with this, however trying to put up some sort of facade as if they aren't your version of VD or your relationship with them isn't similar to that of the IB/VD is wherein lies the hilarity of the situation. I am sure your other line will end up coming true as VD begins to try and raid again, the one where you imply that Taken would get all the targets if you wanted it that way.

TMO members have all said it... you don't really need loot and it is going to waste on many kills so you are bound to help stack the guild/players of your choosing which so far is Taken. The exact concept IB used with VD, so let's not pretend otherwise.

IB had a different use for VD. The only people that seem to not understand what it was is some TMO, all of VD (save a few), maybe a few IB apps and the entire rest of the server who was clueless to everything.

TMO doesn't need Taken at all, not even in the slightest. (nothing like the IB/VD "partnership")

I pulled Sev, I was there for the kill and watched as it was killed. TMO had very few in zone and it took awhile for Sev to be killed. Also, all of the loot was had by Taken. Not exactly sure what you mean by "not true, i've seen screenshots".

The Talendor situation is entirely different than Sev. Sev Taken was prepared for and we assisted with the pull and tanking/healing (if any tmo were assisting with DPS it would have been minimal). Talendor, from what i've heard, was going to be killed by VD or with the assistance of VD and that is why TMO did what it did.

Pretty sure if VD had stayed away, then TMO would have as well. The fact TMO gave Taken the loot was most likely due to prior experiences with them being pleasant as well as a few other factors I'm sure.

The only other obvious factor is that people are jealous and upset over loot. If TMO had choosen BDA or Divinity to give the loot to, that guild would be defending while others bitched and moaned about not receiving the goodies.

So, QQ more little short sighted homie.

[Glitterati]

Look, Taken has killed dragons with just about every raiding guild on the server in the last month. I like that we have these friendly relations between us. I've found many pleasant people in BDA, Divinity, Acryid, TMO and VD. And I like killing dragons with not only my guild but others as well. Stop being so entitled. Nothing gets handed to you here in this game on this server. If you want something work for it or at least be diplomatic and not an asshole so other people are willing to work along side you for a common goal. If you're gonna say Zeelot and I are in bed together to deny more people loot then you must've been a window licking short bus rider wearing a helmet as a child.

[Paumad]

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zeelot and I are in bed together.

[canker]

Originally Posted by goodies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have heard everything that went down this morning. kinda sad to pick off charmed people during a guilds turn just so u guys could take the dragon out yourselves. i get facts before calling anyone out.

you get the facts eh? so you were told that when this happened zeelot had clearly pulled and FTE'd talendor and brought him to our camp yet your combined raidforce aggro'd him and attempted to kill, right?

also, even though it was extremely early this morning, I seem to remember zeelot saying in vent that thunderstruck had casted on him when charmed because zee runed himself after your guild and VD stole the aggro. it was self defense situation since he was still high on the aggro list due to pulling and FTE'ing talendor.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Grozmok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll bite. You mean False Analogy, though, right?

I assume that the fallacy is the presupposition that Rome and Nazi Germany are both empires.

Rome was.
Nazi Germany was not.

There were multiple fallacies, however the p99 related one was the fallacy that related a guild to real governments.
Your fallacy type was correct for both statements however.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rest of the server who was clueless to everything.

TMO doesn't need Taken at all, not even in the slightest. (nothing like the IB/VD "partnership")

This ^
IB/VD formed to compete against TMO...otherwise they had no chance... and as it has shows still had no chance. TMO allied with Taken to be friendly and to stop VD from interfering with our "endangered species list"

The point of the endangered species list is to allow the casual guilds, who normally would have little to no access to raid bosses, a chance for kunark/classic raiding.

Whether or not VD has the power/will to compete anymore will be decided in in the coming weeks. However, if any one guild starts dominating the "free mobs" then it defeats the purpose of the idea. Enforcement might be deemed necessary.

[Cash]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact TMO gave Taken the loot was most likely due to prior experiences with them being pleasant as well as a few other factors I'm sure.

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing gets handed to you here in this game on this server. you must've been a window licking short bus rider wearing a helmet as a child.

Look at the bold italics and compare the statements, sounds like you need to take a little of your own advice if you want to talk negatively toward someone. You and your guild haven't done anything but ride the coattails of other guilds it sounds/looks like, when was the last time you solo killed a major target that you had to compete for? Not for a long long time.

Your last statement that i bold underlined seems to apply to you, work on your insults or don't use them especially if you like the friendly atmosphere you have [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Autotune if it is a QQ than why do you feel the need to repeat yourself? It isn't a QQ, but rather a point that was made in relation to a prediction thread from someone else awhile ago and it just seems to be coming true with the facts displayed. Plus if it was another guild nobody would've had the comparisons of the past to make to this as there wouldn't have been a trend developing. As mentioned it doesn't really matter, just quit pretending that TMO/Taken does not have a partnership when it comes to things like this as similar to IB/VD. There is one and whether or not it operates the same that can be debated, obviously there are both similarities and differences.