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Old 05-21-2015, 11:05 AM
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Lulls you gonna rage on Ragefire?
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:59 AM
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I expect him to put the next book out, but I don't expect him to finish the series. If the next book comes out, it will be my series finale. Any loose ends I will just consider to be material that will never be covered. I suspect that this season sucks so bad because they're biding time for the next book to come out next year before the 2016 season, when they'll be able to do a lot more shit because there's more canon material to cover.
No way - he hasn't even submitting a final manuscript yet and once he does that's at least a year of back and forth editing.

The showrunners want the show to end in 7 or 8 seasons, even though HBO doesn't - which means they are cutting/combining all the extra fluff characters and stories.

They won't be waiting for the books any longer - which made Martin a little butthurt because he wanted HBO to hold production while he finished the books but no chance of that.

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The question in my mind is, how much detail has Martin shared? How much of the show's storyline consolidation and bending/folding is being done with complete fore knowledge?
Martin has shared the ending with them and the general guides on how to get there, but the rest of this season and the next two are going to be very different from what Martin ends up writing to get to the same conclusion.

The showrunners have stated they do not want the show to drag on and overstay it's welcome and turn into another Lost.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:49 PM
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I think we agree to some extent re: the showrunners dilemma. OTH, there was ample material in 4 & 5 for them to build out show season 5. Aegon/Connington, for e.g. King's Moot/Euron/Victorian, etc. for another example. These appeared to be significant storylines, amirite? Are the showrunners skipping these? Appears so. This is both interesting and concerning. Did the showrunners decide to axe it on their own? Or, did Martin tell them they wouldn't count for much at the end??
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I'm sure if Aegon factored into the ending (which they supposedly know) they would have adapted that storyline.
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Old 05-24-2015, 08:50 AM
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Anybody notice Tyene nicked Bronn at the end of their skirmish? uh oh.
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Old 05-24-2015, 10:38 AM
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The show sucks. It peaked up to the end of ASOS, just like the books did.

There, I said it.
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i stand corrected. Tonight's episode was solid.

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Old 05-25-2015, 12:04 AM
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it was a garbage episode
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Old 05-25-2015, 01:00 AM
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As far as Sansa knows at this point (on the show), isn't it her understanding that Theon murdered her brothers? Weiss and Beniof, so much fail.
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As far as Sansa knows at this point (on the show), isn't it her understanding that Theon murdered her brothers? Weiss and Beniof, so much fail.
Sansa attempted to turn Theon around to aid her escape. Effort was a bit thin, but she tried to get Theon to acknowledge "owing" her/Starks and "remember" his name, similar to process he went or is going through in books. Didn't work....yet.

I guess leaving Ghost behind worked in the short-term in helping Sam, but the show has largely lost the signal between kids and direwolves. A shame.

Dorne story so messed up, but perhaps we are seeing the stage set for Jamie to grow. I'm an optimist. Did not really buy how Bronn dodged his bullet tho. What's up with that?
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