ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Clark]

Would totally bang the blonde chick. Is she good or bad?

Always have had a thing for blondes.

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[Deadmantis]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would totally bang the blonde chick. Is she good or bad?

Always have had a thing for blondes.

That's Daenerys Targaryen, the last of her kind. The Khaleesi, and mother of dragons. Has dragon blood flowing in her veins. She goes for the bad boys. You better be a horselord and own an army or be a crusty hired sellsword to even have a remote shot.

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[Patriam1066]

I don't think they find Brienne. That would actually give her storyline a purpose, and remove Sansa from drama. I doubt it's that easy.

Baelish was moving north. Maybe he goes up, crushes the Boltons, finds Sansa, and the Northern Conspiracy tries to depose Peter in favor of her as Wardeness of the North? Then again, she knows that Bran and Rickon are alive, so who knows....

Ultimately, I think in both the books and the show, she will outmaneuver Baelish, causing his demise. Whenever this happens, she will be in a position to become a major Lord/Lady whatever the fuck you call it. I imagine in the books, however, this will take place either in the Vale or the Riverlands, as her character probably won't be going north any time soon.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy cow this thread is huge! Someone at work finally convinced me to give the show another try. I didn't like the d-bag throwing the kid out the window in one of the early first season episodes when I originally tried it. Going to start season one this summer though, and give it a realistic try. Looks like there is more action for the future than the couple episodes I tried long ago.

hehe, so you watched the pilot episode and bailed when Jaime pushed Bran out the window? if that made you rage quit, i got bad news for you; more bad shit is coming. in this story you dont win just because youre a good guy, and in this story you are not unkillable just because youre a main character. actions have consequences, and if you do dumb shit, youre gonna pay for it, one way or another. and sadly most times, honorable and stupid are in the same.

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken, your german is echt stark. Good catch! So, what's next for Sansa & Theon? They get scooped up by Brienne, go on the lam, find a gravedigger...

i have no f'ing idea. they are suppose to get scooped up by Stannis. and then i assumed Stannis would want to kill theon, but Melisandre would save him for later due to that kings blood (Theon was indeed the son of the King of the Iron Isles). i still dont believe Stannis is dead on the show, so we'll see. Sansa's story is fucked. hopefully HBO will just start next season showing that Theon and Sansa went splat and died when they hit the ground. thatd be better than some lame ass rendezvous with Brienne and Pod. and lets not even get me started on how big lengthy non sneaky Brienne walked right up to Stannis without any Bolton nerds noticing her.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think they find Brienne. That would actually give her storyline a purpose, and remove Sansa from drama. I doubt it's that easy.
Baelish was moving north. Maybe he goes up, crushes the Boltons, finds Sansa, and the Northern Conspiracy tries to depose Peter in favor of her as Wardeness of the North? Then again, she knows that Bran and Rickon are alive, so who knows....
Ultimately, I think in both the books and the show, she will outmaneuver Baelish, causing his demise. Whenever this happens, she will be in a position to become a major Lord/Lady whatever the fuck you call it. I imagine in the books, however, this will take place either in the Vale or the Riverlands, as her character probably won't be going north any time soon.

Sansa will ultimately be the undoing of Baelish, i stand by that. fuck it. lets just have Brienne, Pod, Sansa, Theon, Davos, and Melisandre all go to the wall, rezz Jon Snow, add him to the posse, and then the 7 of them go off and save the world with fire and blood and ice and snow and lions and tigers and bears (oh my). this season was just a huge disappointment for me. they completely ruined Dorne, and i cant believe im about to say this, but i truthfully wish they would have just cut Dorne out to do more/better with the other characters. great job HBO on ruining one of the best most in depth aspects of the story.

[heartbrand]

Dorms was awful but I loved the scene with Jaime and myrcella. That is until she (likely) died.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lets just have Brienne, Pod, Sansa, Theon, Davos, and Melisandre all go to the wall, rezz Jon Snow, add him to the posse, and then the 7 of them go off and save the world with fire and blood and ice and snow and lions and tigers and bears (oh my).

Sirk-dog:

I tend to like Melisandre also. I think she has good intentions (though she is evil as fuck), and is generally and all-around bad ass.

I also think she has a lot of blind spots beneath that facade of confidence. She is going to die a nasty death when she makes a mistake and it comes back to bite her in the ass.

I predict she dies in WOW (perhaps in the resurrection of j. snow).

Your thoughts?

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirk-dog:

I tend to like Melisandre also. I think she has good intentions (though she is evil as fuck), and is generally and all-around bad ass.

I also think she has a lot of blind spots beneath that facade of confidence. She is going to die a nasty death when she makes a mistake and it comes back to bite her in the ass.

I predict she dies in WOW (perhaps in the resurrection of j. snow).

Your thoughts?

I don't think she is evil.

She does things because she believes they will further the cause for the greater good. I'm not aware of her doing evil stuff without proper motivation.

Fanatic or extremist seem more appropriate.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dorms was awful but I loved the scene with Jaime and myrcella. That is until she (likely) died.

i knew she was gonna die after that. whenever HBO writes a death, they try to get you more attached to the character first via a couple emotional scenes. they did the same thing with Shireen. it will however be very interesting to see what happens next. the lannisters are no longer in a position to go to war with Dorne. and Tristain is now essentially a Lannister hostage.

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think she is evil.
She does things because she believes they will further the cause for the greater good. I'm not aware of her doing evil stuff without proper motivation.
Fanatic or extremist seem more appropriate.

shes evil as fuck, im just not sure that shes aware of it. of all the red priests we've met (Melisandre, Thoros, Moqorro, and Benerro), Mel appears to be the least proficient at her skills. i dont think shes purposely misled Stannis, but i think one of two things happened. either the flames showed her what she needed to see to get her to the wall to meet Jon, or she misinterpreted the visions in the flames and mistook visions of Jon for visions of Stannis. only time will tell exactly which side of the fence the red god is on. but as it stands now, she appears to be against the whitewalkers, i just dont think she cares what price she pays to satisfy her god. (fwiw, remember Mel is from Assai. a lot of people think the red god is super real because they've seen Mel's magic. but Melisandre comes from a land full of supposed dark magic users. its very possible most of her tricks are not acts of the red god, but moreso tricks designed to convert people to their religion. i also dont expect any of the gods to play any role in the battle of ice and fire.)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirk-dog:
I tend to like Melisandre also. I think she has good intentions (though she is evil as fuck), and is generally and all-around bad ass.
I also think she has a lot of blind spots beneath that facade of confidence. She is going to die a nasty death when she makes a mistake and it comes back to bite her in the ass.
I predict she dies in WOW (perhaps in the resurrection of j. snow).
Your thoughts?

i hate Mel. as i said, i truly believes that she believes shes doing the right thing. and i truly believe that her and her church are trying to stop the long night from happening again. but they are fanatics, and they are obsessed with prophecy. and i think sometimes the red priests might see things that arent really there, simply because its what they are looking for.

its like ghost hunter people. if you are looking for ghosts, then every dust spec, every shadow, and every sound "must be" a ghost. whereas to a person just walking and not ghost hunting, they'd only see a dust particle as dust, a shadow as a shadow, and a sound as whatever sound they heard. sometimes when people look for something hard enough, they try to force it like a puzzle piece that doesnt exactly fit

[holahouze]

You don't want Sansa and Theon to go spat, do you? They're going to be into some pretty interesting stuff.

I'm more forgiving of showrunners than a lot of folks mainly because Martin's world is so big and story holds so many surprises and possibilities. Cuts and shortcuts were inevitable. But, i agree with you, season 5 in Dorne was a disaster, until the end. We head into season 6 with wicked internal strife in Dorne, Myrcella dead by Dornish hands creating crazed Lannister wrath, Trystane a prisoner, and the Lannister/Tyrell alliance hosed up. Let's showrunners up their gaime and do this set-up justice.