ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Patriam1066]

Jon is the hero. Dany is the martyr who will remember the things she lacked in life (love, family, and a place to call home) and as a result, will nobly sacrifice herself to save the people of Westeros. Sansa will be queen, and fAegon, the blackfyre descended son of a rich, ambitious merchant, will die the death of a pawn, because ultimately, GRRM is a postmodern liberal with that type of sensibility. Regardless, I love the books and even some of the social commentary made within them.

I wish Aegon could marry Sansa and that they could take the Kingdom with the backing of Jon (ruling as a stark in winterfell after defeating the Others with Dany's help). In this alternative future, Rickon would be given the Dreadfort, henceforth known as Shaggyfort. Alas, Aegon is fucked because the only reason GRRM would introduce such an ambiguous character at this point is to demonstrate how life turns out for those who legitimately deserve better when they are manipulated by those who suck. I'm probably wrong about this, but I just can't see a reason to add Aegon other than to make a commentary about people like Illyrio, Varys, Aegon himself.

[Daywolf]

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[holahouze]

I saw this movie at Studio 35 while i was in college!! It was during the killer blizzard of '77, and we went there to warm up because it was sub 50 degrees in our slum half double. Returned to find a raccoon had set up shop in my bedroom. That's when the fun started...

[holahouze]

Stumbled across this survey this morning. Worse ways to spend a couple minutes. Survey is reported in two chunks, look for 2nd.

http://towerofthehand.com/blog/2016/...s-1/index.html

[Sirken]

new teaser - https://youtu.be/H68jBjb5XbQ

that first part reminded me of the pink letter :P

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

new teaser - https://youtu.be/H68jBjb5XbQ

that first part reminded me of the pink letter :P

TOTH survey says you're on to something re pink letter:

2. Who wrote the Pink Letter?

The author of the Pink Letter remains hotly contested both internally and across the spectrum. Replies tended to divide between Mance Rayder and Ramsay Bolton.

/r/asoiaf
Mance Rayder: 940 (39.9%)
Ramsay Bolton: 586 (24.9%)
Stannis Baratheon: 228 (9.7%)
Don't Know/No Opinion: 256 (10.9%)
Lady Barbrey Dustin: 118 (5%)
Melisandre of Asshai: 54 (2.3%)
Theon Greyjoy: 52 (2.2%)
Roose Bolton: 44 (1.9%)
Alliser Thorne: 17 (0.7%)
Asha Greyjoy: 16 (0.7%)
Bowen Marsh: 9 (0.4%)
Mors or Hother Umber: 8 (0.3%)
Harrion Karstark 3 (0.1%)
Other: 22 (0.9%)
Westeros.org
Ramsay Bolton: 37 (37.4%)
Mance Rayder: 23 (23.2%)
Don't Know/No Opinion: 14 (14.1%)
Stannis Baratheon: 7 (7.1%)
Theon Greyjoy: 7 (7.1%)
Lady Barbrey Dustin: 3 (3%)
Melisandre of Asshai: 2 (2%)
Asha Greyjoy: 2 (2%)
Roose Bolton: 1 (1%)
Alliser Thorne : 1 (1%)
Harrion Karstark: 1 (1%)
Bowen Marsh: 0 (0%)
Mors or Hother Umber: 0 (0%)
Other: 1 (1%)
Tower of the Hand
Ramsay Bolton: 149 (47.9%)
Mance Rayder : 58 (18.6%)
Stannis Baratheon: 38 (12.2%)
Don't Know/No Opinion: 30 (9.6%)
Roose Bolton 10 (3.2%)
Melisandre of Asshai: 9 (2.9%)
Lady Barbrey Dustin: 4 (1.3%)
Theon Greyjoy: 4 (1.3%)
Mors or Hother Umber: 3 (1%)
Asha Greyjoy: 2 (0.6%)
Alliser Thorne: 2 (0.6%)
Bowen Marsh: 1 (0.3%)
Harrion Karstark: 1 (0.3%)
Other 0 (0%)
Watchers on the Wall
Ramsay Bolton: 910 (52.4%)
Mance Rayder: 366 (21.1%)
Don't Know/No Opinion: 144 (8.3%)
Stannis Baratheon: 129 (7.4%)
Melisandre of Asshai: 45 (2.6%)
Alliser Thorne: 34 (2%)
Theon Greyjoy: 32 (1.8%)
Roose Bolton: 25 (1.4%)
Lady Barbrey Dustin: 16 (0.9%)
Bowen Marsh: 9 (0.5%)
Mors or Hother Umber: 4 (0.2%)
Asha Greyjoy: 4 (0.2%)
Harrion Karstark: 4 (0.2%)
Other: 13 (0.7%)
ASOIAF Facebook
Ramsay Bolton: 81 (39.5%)
Mance Rayder: 61 (29.8%)
Don't Know/No Opinion 16 (7.8%)
Melisandre of Asshai: 10 (4.9%)
Stannis Baratheon: 9 (4.4%)
Roose Bolton: 6 (2.9%)
Theon Greyjoy: 4 (2%)
Lady Barbrey Dustin: 4 (2%)
Alliser Thorne: 3 (1.5%)
Bowen Marsh: 3 (1.5%)
Mors or Hother Umber: 2 (1%)
Asha Greyjoy: 1 (0.5%)
Harrion Karstark: 1 (0.5%)
Other 4 2%

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Sirken]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TOTH survey says you're on to something re pink letter:

2. Who wrote the Pink Letter?

The author of the Pink Letter remains hotly contested both internally and across the spectrum. Replies tended to divide between Mance Rayder and Ramsay Bolton.

based on the wording used, im pretty convinced it was Mance. check out Preston Jacobs video on the Pink Letter, im pretty much 100% subscribed to that theory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

based on the wording used, im pretty convinced it was Mance. check out Preston Jacobs video on the Pink Letter, im pretty much 100% subscribed to that theory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. Mance is the only one who would be familiar with all the references - without a fair amount of flaying or torture involved. I'm unsure about PJ's theories of motivation - just not familiar with some of that stuff. But, it fits Mance's wily nature - double-cross and such. And, of course, it only works if Mance has found the horn. Too bad the show skipped over all this.

The horn in the crypts also fits into a thought i have that the Starks have forgotten more of their history than they remember.

[Villide]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TOTH survey says you're on to something re pink letter:

2. Who wrote the Pink Letter?

The author of the Pink Letter remains hotly contested both internally and across the spectrum. Replies tended to divide between Mance Rayder and Ramsay Bolton.

Surprised so many voted for Stannis Baratheon. Seems that's something that would violate his moral code to a high degree. Would Ned Stark have written something like that?