So your guns keep you safe?

[Tarathiel]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new...ing/index.html

oh hey look more people dead from gun violence, this time is was a trap set to lure these unsuspecting firefighters to their death

now lets talk about how we need MOAR GUNS and how everyone and their mother should have access to one bcuz "its r rite as 'mericans"

[cyryllis]

You obviously fail at reading comprehension and basic logic

[cyryllis]

ok, have to add a post to explain the last one, since it is now apparent that you don't even read the articles that you link to and you most likely have the IQ of 60.

QUOTES DIRECTLY FROM YOUR SOURCE:

" A man convicted of killing his grandmother decades ago "

"Authorities do not know how Spengler, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the scene, obtained the weapon he used in Monday's shooting"

"convicted in 1981 of first-degree manslaughter"

Pickering said. "I think there are still people that need to be in institutions that are a danger to themselves or others. And this is a classic example."



So let me get this straight- ex-con already convicted of murder commits a crime with illegally obtained weapon, goes crazy and shoots people.

We have millions of guns in our country in the hands of people who know how to properly handle them. Shootings as sad for everyone involved and bring up a lot of emotions- many of which are misappropriated towards laws.

People simply have a hard time accepting the fact that in a world with billions of people, you are going to have horrible things like this happen. Globalized media has a really great way of making it seem like these things are a common occurrence. I am upset by these events as much as the next guy, but I have the common sense to see how laws only impact people willing to follow them.

[Tarathiel]

Originally Posted by cyryllis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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oh i read it, and the parts you quoted were the parts that stuck out the most to me, and if you had any reading comprehension skills(like you claim i dont) and paid attention at all to the other points ive made in this thread then you would understand why i found this link to be relevant. there is absolutely no reason on earth why this guy should even have been out of jail, let alone have access to firearms, where the fuck were his probation officers? were they not routinely checking his house to make sure he did not possess these guns? our entire system is one gigantic failure after another. this is just further evidence that our criminal justice system, mental health system, and finally our dependence on firearms is a complete and utter failure. again i must stress, i dont think we should ban all guns, just make it harder for crazy fucks like this guy to get them. if that means keeping them locked up then so fucking be it. if it means that if you have ever had any kind of mental illness you should NEVER have access to a firearm. will this stop sane people from snapping? no. will this stop people from obtaining guns illegally? no..... but its better than just sitting around with our thumbs up our ass waiting for the next fucking massacre to happen

[cyryllis]

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/...tally-ill.aspx

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh i read it, and the parts you quoted were the parts that stuck out the most to me, and if you had any reading comprehension skills(like you claim i dont) and paid attention at all to the other points ive made in this thread then you would understand why i found this link to be relevant. there is absolutely no reason on earth why this guy should even have been out of jail, let alone have access to firearms, where the fuck were his probation officers? were they not routinely checking his house to make sure he did not possess these guns? our entire system is one gigantic failure after another. this is just further evidence that our criminal justice system, mental health system, and finally our dependence on firearms is a complete and utter failure. again i must stress, i dont think we should ban all guns, just make it harder for crazy fucks like this guy to get them. if that means keeping them locked up then so fucking be it. if it means that if you have ever had any kind of mental illness you should NEVER have access to a firearm. will this stop sane people from snapping? no. will this stop people from obtaining guns illegally? no..... but its better than just sitting around with our thumbs up our ass waiting for the next fucking massacre to happen

/qft

[Tarathiel]

obviously

"The firefighters who responded today were performing a selfless, meaningful service to their community, unaware that a cold-hearted maniac was planning to ambush them and take their lives," said Harold Schaitberger, general president of the Washington-based International Association of Fire Fighters. "Coming on the heels of the horrific tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, and on Christmas Eve, this shooting is even harder to comprehend."

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

obviously

"The firefighters who responded today were performing a selfless, meaningful service to their community, unaware that a cold-hearted maniac was planning to ambush them and take their lives," said Harold Schaitberger, general president of the Washington-based International Association of Fire Fighters. "Coming on the heels of the horrific tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, and on Christmas Eve, this shooting is even harder to comprehend."

I hear that this is some new tactic and has never, ever happened before nor does it happen often.

[Andrew Jackson]

all your link did is prove bad guys are going to obtain illegal weaponry anyway, so why disarm everyone so they can feed on us?

[Sly]

So far none of you who want to restrict or ban firearms to in order to keep us safe and protect our children have said anything about protecting kids from any of the other forms of death I listed in previous posts..is it that you dont care if kids die in auto accidents, botched medical procedures, poisonings, reactions to prescription meds or the decade long wars in 2 countrys?
A child dies in a car wreck, you're ok with that...wouldnt think of making it an issue or speak out about it, never ban those autos
A child gets stabbed to death, fine, ok... sucks but yeah..dont want to ban knives
A child gets shot..Oooohh lord why why whyyyyy...we need the govt to do something, ban those guns...suddenly you care.
Why are you all not blaming the other objects that caused death?

someone gets mauled to death by a yellow lab..ooh my so sad
someone gets mauled to death by a pitbull...God damn those dogs, ban the breed


I Blame the asshole that does the bad deed, not the car or the knife or the 9 iron or the brick..smarten up, people do fucked up things and always will, you are not going to fix it by taking away things or freedoms from the law abiding citizens.