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Old 12-30-2013, 08:57 PM
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This proposal effective lets BDA, Div, Taken, and others compete solely against each other once a month for Trak. Assuming a three way split, how long would it take a guild to get VP keyed? Assume a 3 way split or VS...how many epic/year is that?
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:05 PM
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This proposal effective lets BDA, Div, Taken, and others compete solely against each other once a month for Trak. Assuming a three way split, how long would it take a guild to get VP keyed? Assume a 3 way split or VS...how many epic/year is that?
There is nothing in this proposal that disallows and person or guild from raiding priority targets every day of the month. It seems more to me your unwillingness to try and engage these mobs while FE, IB and TMO are contesting them as well...
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:11 PM
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There is nothing in this proposal that disallows and person or guild from raiding priority targets every day of the month. It seems more to me your unwillingness to try and engage these mobs while FE, IB and TMO are contesting them as well...
There is nothing right now that stops us from attempting to raid priority targets every day of the month. That's one reason this proposal is failing. At the very least, it needs to be one week on, one week off, to be considered by everyone else.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:58 PM
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I just want to state one thing for the guilds that are clearly upset with this. If a large amount of guilds who already aren't getting raid targets don't like this, veto it and if the big 3 aren't willing to budge on this, they will be the ones losing targets.

The majority of the server already aren't getting raid targets, so in a way you have been raid suspended for the past few years. You guys have the upper hand here, don't let this blindside you and force you to make a rash decision by agreeing because there is the raid suspension deadline.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:59 PM
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I just want to state one thing for the guilds that are clearly upset with this. If a large amount of guilds who already aren't getting raid targets don't like this, veto it and if the big 3 aren't willing to budge on this, they will be the ones losing targets.

The majority of the server already aren't getting raid targets, so in a way you have been raid suspended for the past few years. You guys have the upper hand here, don't let this blindside you and force you to make a rash decision by agreeing because there is the raid suspension deadline.
^^ this ^^
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:02 PM
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I just want to state one thing for the guilds that are clearly upset with this. If a large amount of guilds who already aren't getting raid targets don't like this, veto it and if the big 3 aren't willing to budge on this, they will be the ones losing targets.

The majority of the server already aren't getting raid targets, so in a way you have been raid suspended for the past few years. You guys have the upper hand here, don't let this blindside you and force you to make a rash decision by agreeing because there is the raid suspension deadline.
I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:04 PM
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I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:37 PM
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I can live with not raiding a month if it means fixing a one sided proposal like this.
Been living with it for years. What's another month?
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:59 PM
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Just want to clarify something, because right now there is an assumption on this thread it seems that FE and TMO are the only two "top tier" guilds involved. That is actually not the case, IB and FE work together, that does not mean that FE speak for IB and I am sure that is not how FE would expect it to be interpreted either [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:59 PM
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It'd be advantageious to the "b" guilds to have the priority target list be as large as possible. Take those mobs off the list and there's virtually nothing that the big boys are declining to kill during their week off.
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