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Old 01-28-2014, 05:24 PM
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You guys had your shot at repops like twice now when the server reset and nihilum wasn't on the ball and you guys could have easily had a good head start but you didn't take advantage of the situation. As Agatha said it already it doesn't matter if variance is added or not, you would not be able to cut it. EQ is from 1999 and to here will still be a poopsock neckbearding game. You have a job, Cant make a 3am, 6am, 9am raid? Well that sucks for you, People back in 99-current COULDNT DO THAT EITHER only some could. The fact is you have more of those hardcore neckbeard players bottled up playing on one server then any of the EQlive PVP servers EVER did.

Go play World of Warcraft or some instanced game where you guys can have your saturday afternoon instanced raids where you all have time off from work or RL/family obligations. This is as classic as it gets, neckbeards who can login whenever/wherever get it done.
Again, you probably wouldn't know this as you were most likely still in kindergarten back in 99, but mobs were not routinely killed @ 6am on live. We slayed many a dragon and god back in 99, and it was 9pm at night, not 9am in the morning. Thanks though!

p.s., the current server ruleset that allows the routine slaying of all mobs once a week in a 3 hour timespan is far closer to a WoW type gameplay than simulated repops.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:25 PM
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I GREATLY disagree with your 250 pop assessment. If anything, red may dip even further as people flock to blue. On blue, there's plenty of content to satiate a shit load of players in Velious. On red, all it takes is one group with faction to completely cock block and shit on people farming Kael arena / halls of testing, etc., etc. The massive amounts of grief possible in Velious will scare off all but the most bearded of necks.

p.s.: this was predicted and already covered by the CLASSIC rallos zek PNP which forbade the engagement in pvp of another raid force, if you're engaging force was insufficient to kill the mob you were cock blocking
There are a lot of 55+ characters sitting dormant. I doubt anyone is coming back to grind up on a low exp rate server when they have a perfectly good high level character sitting on red. I just don't see how adding content is going to cause people to leave red, maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:27 PM
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There are a lot of 55+ characters sitting dormant. I doubt anyone is coming back to grind up on a low exp rate server when they have a perfectly good high level character sitting on red. I just don't see how adding content is going to cause people to leave red, maybe I'm wrong.
Because adding content really only helps one guild on red99, Nihilum. If you're not Nihilum, it really doesn't do a whole lot. Yes, I get that Red Dawn will get some more mobs in Velious, but the amount of them is greatly exaggerated, and if Nihilum wants to, they can probably still cockblock about 85% of all content in the game with ease. This was the exact same scenario with Kunark, where Ender and Arzak came to these boards with prophecies of 200+ pop for Kunark. Yet it never occurred. The pop didn't even really go up significantly [a point brought up on Nihilum's internal forums which you can read for yourself].
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:30 PM
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Again, you probably wouldn't know this as you were most likely still in kindergarten back in 99, but mobs were not routinely killed @ 6am on live. We slayed many a dragon and god back in 99, and it was 9pm at night, not 9am in the morning. Thanks though!

p.s., the current server ruleset that allows the routine slaying of all mobs once a week in a 3 hour timespan is far closer to a WoW type gameplay than simulated repops.
What a load of horseshit. On live, each server had euro guilds that slayed shit during euro hours. Did you cry about that to the gms on live Hb?
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:33 PM
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So every EQ live server was dominated by euro guilds? FoH was a euro guild? LoZ was a euro guild? Afterlife a euro guild? Cats in Hats euro guild? Inner Circle euro guild? News to me. Yes, euro guilds got some mobs, but they didn't get them all, not even close. How is that possible? How is it conceivable that euro guilds didn't lock down every mob in the game every repop for months on end in a 3 hour window? Could it be [gasp] that locking everything down in a 3 hour window @ 6am est actually ISNT classic?
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What a load of horseshit. On live, each server had euro guilds that slayed shit during euro hours. Did you cry about that to the gms on live Hb?
That is a good thing. Mobs were on rotations and you just competed to get the mobs that popped during your playtime. If there was a server crash or reset during a time you could log in you would compete once server came back up. It is good for mobs to sometimes spawn at 6 am, so euros get a chance. For the repops to always be at 6 am is dumb. It was never like this on live and doesn't make sense to make a system like that here.
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Because adding content really only helps one guild on red99, Nihilum. If you're not Nihilum, it really doesn't do a whole lot. Yes, I get that Red Dawn will get some more mobs in Velious, but the amount of them is greatly exaggerated, and if Nihilum wants to, they can probably still cockblock about 85% of all content in the game with ease. This was the exact same scenario with Kunark, where Ender and Arzak came to these boards with prophecies of 200+ pop for Kunark. Yet it never occurred. The pop didn't even really go up significantly [a point brought up on Nihilum's internal forums which you can read for yourself].
15% of 40 (rough estimate on raid targets) is a lot more than 0% of 20 (or however many raid targets there are now).

Plus there is a TON of 2 group type shit. Plus a ton of quests that give good gear. Also, Kunark will be more open outside of VP, and maybe even VP will be open sometimes.
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15% of 40 (rough estimate on raid targets) is a lot more than 0% of 20 (or however many raid targets there are now).

Plus there is a TON of 2 group type shit. Plus a ton of quests that give good gear. Also, Kunark will be more open outside of VP, and maybe even VP will be open sometimes.
Unfortunately, a lot of the "2 group shit" such as skyshrine armor, etc., will likely be perma locked down for the first six months of Velious. I get what you're saying, but I think it's GREATLY overstated the amount of content opened up to tier 2 guilds in Velious.
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I can’t log in at 6am EST, or usually any sooner than 4PM CST during the weekdays. I would love to wake up and raid if I didn’t work but I have a job that requires me to be in a respectable state of mind when I show up in the morning. Would be nice to see the repop happen at an hour where some of us can actually show up and compete for the dragons.

Currently I am never online for any of the spawns. I wake up and see bat phone messages for dragons but I can’t log in to do it. It’s sad bros, I don’t think I have ever even seen pvp over innoruuk/severilous/VS the entire 2 and a half years of my on and off playing here. The server should be about PVP, whether RD wins the mob or not. Some of us just want to be able to show up and be a part of large scale PVP.

I get it though, Nihilum favors having mobs at uncontested hours because there is 0% risk of losing the mob to pvp. Smart tactic sure. For the sake of PVP I would like to see things spawning at more reasonable hour but know it probably won’t happen.
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