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Old 07-22-2015, 03:30 PM
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Where are they based and to what unionized state do they outsource to?
Dell is HQed in Texas. Dell outsources support to India and manufacturing to China. Support and manufacturing used to be based in Texas. Texas is a right to work state, and therefore, union free.
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Dell is HQed in Texas. Dell outsources support to India and manufacturing to China. Support and manufacturing used to be based in Texas. Texas is a right to work state, and therefore, union free.
Is Texas subject to federal minimum wage laws in this industry?
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:47 PM
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Federal minimum wage != unions
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The scariest thing about The Donald, is that he makes Koch Brothers sock puppet Scott Walker appear to be almost sentient by comparison.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:52 PM
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Yall motherfuckers need Bernie Sanders.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:06 PM
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Yall motherfuckers need Bernie Sanders.
Man I wish I was young and stupid enough to get on board this hype train but I guess I think too much
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:08 PM
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Dell is HQed in Texas. Dell outsources support to India and manufacturing to China. Support and manufacturing used to be based in Texas. Texas is a right to work state, and therefore, union free.
So as a right to work state, Texas has no unions, but Dell which is headquartered there outsources labor to third world countries. I think we can agree that the reason is cheaper labor. Now, do you think labor unions in Texas would make American workers more or less competitive?

I understand the point that you were making is that unions are not solely responsible of outsourcing. I agree with that, but they certainly exacerbate the problem. Wouldn't you agree?

The solution is to incentivize goods/services in which we are competitive, specifically local services (which inherently cannot be outsourced) and advanced technologies.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:16 PM
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I understand the point that you were making is that unions are not solely responsible of outsourcing. I agree with that, but they certainly exacerbate the problem. Wouldn't you agree?
No, I do not agree. It's the lack of federal oversight and the hiding of assets coupled with executive level pay that exacerbates the problem. You can blame the workforce, or you can stop paying CEOs millions of dollars and pay that money to the people that worked the hardest to earn it instead of treating them like slave labor and then throwing them away to pay people overseas even less.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:19 PM
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A union worker, a non union worker and a CEO are seated at a table.
In the middle of the table sits a plate with a dozen cookies on it.
The CEO reaches out and grabs 11 cookies.
Then he turns to the non union worker and says, "Watch out! That union guy is after your cookie!"
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:20 PM
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Man I wish I was young and stupid enough to get on board this hype train but I guess I think too much
I know it's cool to hate on everything that's popular, but Bernie Sanders is a good candidate. Even if he is un-electable, a vote for him is a vote of non-confidence in the two-party system, as long as you don't vote for him after the primary instead of a lesser-of-two-evils candidate who can actually win.
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