i am mad because Stormfeather really is a camp!!!

[simp403]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They are obligated to tell you exactly who is on it, and to add you to it.

Nothing could possible go wrong with this. I'm sure the dude who just waited 18 hours to kill a flying eaglelion on the internet will be responsive and timely with a massive list of names.

[Mackie]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys, we can make a list for Stormfeather work. This isn't rocket science.

You need to be assertive about requesting the list from whoever is holding the camp. They are obligated to tell you exactly who is on it, and to add you to it. This is a GM enforced rule w/r/t camps.

AFK camping is not against the rules. You can AFK at camps if you want to. You only need to engage your mob within a reasonable amount of time when it spawns. What happens if someone is AFK when Stormfeather spawns? Well, if you're serious about getting the camp, it would be a good idea to show up during the spawn window if you're next on the list. This way you can take the spawn in the case that the current camp holder is AFK and doesn't engage it within a reasonable timeframe. Or, if they kill Stormfeather, then it will allow for a seamless transition to the next person in line - you.

So yes, if Stormfeather spawns and no one engages it (*gasp*), and it roams the icy tundra of Iceclad Ocean (dear god, no!), it is now a FTE mob. You can attack it now. It's yours.

This is much better than a dozen people trying to insta-FTE the spawn with pets, clickies, or low HP sit aggro. It will waste fewer people's time. You won't need a 30 ms ping to stand a chance at getting your map piece. It's orders of magnitude fairer.

I guess it's time to enforce rules against AFK camping then. You want to "Camp" Something, you better be there for every minute of that 18+ hours.

You wanna be hardcore and poopsock something, you better be there to sock it.

Keep the FTE. It's fair, if you can't get an FTE, either make a class that can, wait a year until everyone has one, or pay for loot rights.

I still don't understand why people are mad at FTE, it's fair for raid mobs, why can't it be considered fair for hardcore single targets with long spawns+Long variances and NO PH's ?

Paul, I'm sorry if I was disrespectful towards you in any ways last night, I was just seriously pissed off that I apparently "Was no longer allowed" To do what was as intended, and imo, the fair route to go about it. I've been trying to get it for weeks, and it hasn't been easy for a rogue.

I also salute you for actually waiting on Tephin :P

[suppresso]

oh gee look whos next on the list, their guildie... yeah that's an honest system

you people and your lists

[Raije1000]

amazing to see swish post more then 3 times without mention of joining red. that deserves more attention

[Skew]

Lists. Fucking socialists.

[simp403]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists. Fucking socialists.

[suppresso]

So I do not try to hide my disdain for lists on mobs like this or any other mobs and I'll explain why.

You honestly think the majority of people in this make believe world are honest and ethical? Think again. They are all anonymous to you and some are seriously pixel addicted to no other life then what they have here. They don't care about you or anyone else.


During double xp weekend I maintained the list for Chardok AOE for 36 hours and I cant even count the number of people who tried to bride there way higher on the list. And even worse I was offered a very nice bride to "hand" over the list to a particular person once I was ready to leave instead of who was next inline for it. I turned it down obviously just like the rest I turned down, but if you think someone who is ethical is going to be maintaining a list every time, it isn't going to happen.

If people want to be on a list they will plop their poopsocking but physically in a line and as the first person gets it they will move their pixel a couple inches ahead until they finally get there turn. if they are not at the keyboard the second it dies and the line of people move, they simply get skipped over, or my preference is to simply remove them from the list.

[Portsche]

Originally Posted by Raije1000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

amazing to see swish post more then 3 times without mention of joining red. that deserves more attention

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps what blue needs...

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by suppresso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I do not try to hide my disdain for lists on mobs like this or any other mobs and I'll explain why.

You honestly think the majority of people in this make believe world are honest and ethical? Think again. They are all anonymous to you and some are seriously pixel addicted to no other life then what they have here. They don't care about you or anyone else.


During double xp weekend I maintained the list for Chardok AOE for 36 hours and I cant even count the number of people who tried to bride there way higher on the list. And even worse I was offered a very nice bride to "hand" over the list to a particular person once I was ready to leave instead of who was next inline for it. I turned it down obviously just like the rest I turned down, but if you think someone who is ethical is going to be maintaining a list every time, it isn't going to happen.

If people want to be on a list they will plop their poopsocking but physically in a line and as the first person gets it they will move their pixel a couple inches ahead until they finally get there turn. if they are not at the keyboard the second it dies and the line of people move, they simply get skipped over, or my preference is to simply remove them from the list.

its about ethics in pixel camp management

congrats on being the wettest of blankets

[paulgiamatti]

Got my piece from Stormfeather. Only person on the list was Raenin <Divinity>, who logged off, so the camp went to some guy named Nixel who was waiting there patiently. Don't remember which guild he was in, if guilded.