Nostalrius shut down

[Swish]

I don't see how it can avoid it.... particularly if their business model is "make money" however possible.

I think most people would rather have some Vanilla WoW servers more than do pet battles or whatever stupid shit goes on these days for $$

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see how it can avoid it.... particularly if their business model is "make money" however possible.

I think most people would rather have some Vanilla WoW servers more than do pet battles or whatever stupid shit goes on these days for $$

From my industry understanding, legacy servers/classic servers are a hard sell to management because it involves acknowledging that your current product is not the best product.

The design goal is to make every expansion a better version of the game. Progression is as far as SOE would go. You will never see legacy servers for Blizzard.

For this reason, you will not see legacy servers unless Blizzard is in financial trouble with WoW.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The design goal is to make every expansion a better version of the game.

If they haven't realized that this hasn't been happening for at least 3 expansions I think they're doomed.

To those of us that quit after/during WotLK, seeing "kung fu panda" monks appear was just funny. I knew (or at least felt) then that I shouldn't be playing a kids game and that at 30ish it was probably time to move on. Oh hey P99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by Stylez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've gone back to the www.therebirth.net and it's looks like 700+ people have followed. Yeah all the blah blah about freaky we all know but a new team is at the helm now.

I found myself having to head there too. Valkyrie is DOA. Kronos is a laggy, 50 unit Draw Distance crapfest now that's embraced Chinese farming guilds with VPN exemptions. Which is a real shame as I spent my time there since it launched and did a crapton of bug reporting for them.

The bugs on Rebirth make me ill. Either the previous staff members did fuck-all in fixing even basic bugs, or the players never played 2004-2006 era WoW and understand how shit is supposed to work. Or the Rebirth players gave zero fucks about even making bug reports.

I'm about to submit my first wave of 30+ bugs. I'm curious how this will pan out.

[NegaStoat]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The crap that Blizzard is getting is hilarious. Their facebook page is FLOODED with mean comments about the current state of the game, and what happened to Nost. I hope Blizzard finally implements Legacy servers after seeing a huge market for it.

Actually, the latest theory on why Nost shut down is both tragic and hilarious. Rival projects run solely for profit that are huge (Molten is the big one) have been caught issuing Doxxed C&D papers to smaller projects with a striking level of quality to being Blizzard legal team forgeries.

The current rumor is the C&D was a fake, the Nostalrius staff already had the profit they were after and didn't want to risk it, and shut the thing down because once again, the player backlash from releasing AQ and Naxx late (if at all) would be a mess.

Part of the proof this might be the case is that Blizzard as a company has issued NO statements about the C&D or legal action. None. But they were very swift to do so with their shutting down of Scriptcraft.

It might be a situation where Blizz is thinking "Hey. We did what?" involving the Nost shutdown claim but can't easily step forward and say "Um, that wasn't us, guys." without remotely implying that they were fine with Nostalrius' existance, being that it was a private server.

[Doors]

I had multiple 60s on Nost including one of the first alliance level 60s.

Pre 1.4 mount, played with Nilbog and had a guild of p99er's when the server launched.

This was by far the best emulated server I have ever played on, with the exception of p99.

They did an incredible job making damn near every single quest functional. Raids were done well too. I would argue this was a better experience than live WoW when it launched back in 2004 because there were so many more people. World PVP was the shit and it was nonstop everywhere on nost.

It's sad how down the drain Blizzard has gone. Current live WoW is an abortion of a game. Garrisons have completely ruined any chance of salvaging it too. They could have just made Garrisons a mini game on iPads or something because right now, there is no reason at all to ever leave your Garrison. And prior to this zone phasing was also the beginning of the end. The game feels hollow and empty anymore. I renew once a year to check things out with wishful thinking that the game might turn around but am disappointed and cancel my subscription within a day or two every time.

Legacy servers would have been the only thing that brought me back but after this, I will never play their version of WoW again. This is bullshit in my opinion. Nost was a huge community and they did this because they want those players to sub so they can make more money. They're too idiotic to realize their current product is awful which is why something like Nost became so big.

RIP the good times there playing with my p99 pals.

[Rec]

We need russia to take over canada so we can get good ping and host a server there

[Tann]

a former lead designer for vanilla wow chimed in

https://www.change.org/p/mike-morhai...ty/c/434305499

I was the team lead for vanilla WoW (@grummz on twitter to see that its really me). People have been asking for my thoughts on the Nostalrius servers.

After giving it a lot of thought, I feel Blizzard could have found a way to support these significant fan efforts to bring back vanilla servers, rather than resorting to scary legal tactics. Blizzard, these gamers are not your enemy, they are some of your greatest supporters. Hire them, but them out. Almost 900,000 players say they want to see this. Don't ignore them. Don't tell them "You think you do, but you don't" and instead tell them "we love you guys and we want to thank you for your fandom." My suggestions:

1) You say you lost the original source for vanilla, so use Nostralus' version.
2) Hire the team that did it and let them run/support the service under the Blizzard banner.
3) Add cloud based support so people can spin up private legacy servers on Bnet, chose an expansion, and play with their friends.
4) Profit. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mike, I helped build this game for you, I hope you'll hear me out. Support these fans and dedicated gamers.

[Daywolf]

"You say you lost the original source for vanilla, so use Nostralus' version"
They couldn't do that, big time legal reasons. They shouldn't do that, technical issues. They never lost the old backups, that would be a total lie on their part. Even if they got rid of their house backups, which is unlikely, a lawyer has the original source/s locked in a vault for copyright defense purposes, guaranteed.

[Swish]

RE: the loss of old files... SOE managed to lose the original vanilla EQ files didn't it? Or was that some kind of "sorry, not doing it" get out as well?