Server History Lesson?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sleeper should not have been able to be wakened. It's a permanent blemish on the server. What a crappy design: allowing players to alter the server permanently by eliminating content forever.

It was a terrible design on the original developers part ... which is exactly why they fixed it in Luclin to where you could still get the old content even after the Sleeper woke. With that fix I don't see it as a blemish, and in fact I think it's kind of cool that there's a way a highly motivated and organized group of players could have a permanent effect on the world/story.

Here I think there will be an entirely different solution. Green/recycle won't even get Velious and the Sleeper until the server only has a year or so left. It will probably take a few months after Velious is released before anyone can kill it, and then once they do it won't be long before the whole thing starts over and their great "permanent" accomplishment is erased.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a crappy design: allowing players to alter the server permanently by eliminating content forever.

Designed-in griefing. After all the guild fighting and griefing over other content its kind of stupid it was put in, and even worse that it was re-created here despite hindsight.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember that voicemail left at his work, "hey, are you raiding tonight"

HAHA this just made me snortle hard at 2am, ty

[Swish]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The sleeper should not have been able to be wakened. It's a permanent blemish on the server. What a crappy design: allowing players to alter the server permanently by eliminating content forever.

shit's_classic.gif though

[branamil]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

shit's_classic.gif though

Was it more classic or less classic when the Warders still spawned?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was it more classic or less classic when the Warders still spawned?

Are you saying the sleeper was never woke on your server when you played back in 2000-2001 ?

It was classic the way it played out on all servers including this one.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying the sleeper was never woke on your server when you played back in 2000-2001 ?

It was classic the way it played out on all servers including this one.

True, but by the time sleeper was killed on most live servers, PoP was long underway. Making the loss of the raid targets and the loot much less of a concern.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, but by the time sleeper was killed on most live servers, PoP was long underway. Making the loss of the raid targets and the loot much less of a concern.

Yeah, that for sure. And "we" being on a server that stops expanding now... removing raid content and special items forevermore is dumb. And its not even close to the same as other "classic" changes, such as replacing rubicite with class quest armor.

If someone were looking for an Everquest emulator and wanted to experience all of EQ, or wanted a primal longsword, or gnome mask, SoD, or whatever you are not going to consider P99. Same with people (ahem, me) who might have wanted to play again some day. I'd rather invest my time elsewhere where I can enjoy such things.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather invest my time elsewhere where I can enjoy such things.

I enjoyed reading the defensive comments made by some of the guys that awakened the Sleeper here.

One guy really wanted to make it sound as if that was truly the last feather in his cap he needed for life, to wake the sleeper. Once done, p99 served him no more purpose.

For this type of mentality and behavior they probably would have been better off making the Sleeper unable to be wakened on p99.

I just couldn't help but to think he came off extremely selfish and conceited.

I talked with one original member of Rampage, and he expressed they had internal guild issues that were becoming toxic, and that before the guild blew up, many of them basically had no interest in joining or creating another raid guild. So this was like giving the server a giant middle-finger before exiting p99. Wake the sleeper, then quit p99. Mission accomplished.

[Dreenk317]

And with the amount of non classic changes they have already made. Just reset it and let everyone have there fun.