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Old 03-01-2018, 11:20 AM
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Not going to read through all the shit I'm sure this post contains, but just wanted to make an appearance to make a few points that will hopefully fall on some ears willing to listen.

1) Yes, 30 days is absurd and it's going to be rough. No, it's not the end of the world, or the end of us. Despite what most of you A/A haters believe, many of us do have families, jobs and other things outside of EQ that occupy our time. March=Spring Break, so at least there's that. We'll be fine. The real question is whether p99 is a server worth playing on anymore.

2) We're not perfect. I laughed and stopped reading this thread as soon as I saw the disparaging comments to Opmeter's apology. You guys can spin this any way you want, but the truth is that it was an honest mistake and 100% of what Opmeter said is true. These things happen commonly in ToV between A/A. The difference is that we don't petition each other over everything. Hell, if we do try to petition we get raid suspended for that anyway, too. Sorry to burst your bubble of the delusion that we sit at our computers 12 hours a day trying to screw other guilds over. I've watched many of our officers/members bend over backwards in most cases to extend an olive branch and work with other guilds.

3) We like competition. Sorry, but pulling and killing dragons on it's own is just not challenging. If you're in a guild where it's never been done, sure it's exciting for a short while, but trust me, it will lose its appeal and you will struggle to get people on to continue killing the same dragons in the same boring way.

Competition is healthy and despite a somewhat bitter rivalry between Awakened and Aftermath, it's the competition that drives us in most cases. But it would seem that this 'competition' is being choked out with +10day suspensions for just about anything GMs can find.

If I'm not mistaken, the only reason CSG even had a shot at Eashen was because A/A both had to concede it for tracker FTE. I hear so much complaining about the A/A duopoly of end game content, yet most of you in other guilds could compete in the exact same way if you wanted to.

Seems to me like a further push for a fully rotated raid scene.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:23 AM
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My plan is to not tell my wife that any outside force is limiting my dragon intake and let her believe I am choosing to watch some stupid movie with her or going to some show when I would normally want that free time to game with my homies in Awakened.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:32 AM
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Seriously though ... how much sever drama would be avoided and CSR intervention would become obsolete if you had to engage all TOV dragons close to spawn? Big guilds would have to decide if launching a full scale raid would be worth it for 1-2 minor named thus leaving it possibly open for others. Multiple raids would not be at risk for training each other (accidentally or otherwise) in fighting close to spawn.

This server has already implemented much less classic mechanisms. I'm pretty sure the Verant Devs intended you to fight ToV shit in the respective wing it spawns.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:33 AM
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Seriously though ... how much sever drama would be avoided and CSR intervention would become obsolete if you had to engage all TOV dragons close to spawn? Big guilds would have to decide if launching a full scale raid would be worth it for 1-2 minor named thus leaving it possibly open for others. Multiple raids would not be at risk for training each other (accidentally or otherwise) in fighting close to spawn.

This server has already implemented much less classic mechanisms. I'm pretty sure the Verant Devs intended you to fight ToV shit in the respective wing it spawns.
People have been asking for this for a long time, and I'm pretty sure the bosses were rooted in their spawn rooms on live. What we have right now is NOT classic.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:36 AM
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Root em all.
Do away with contrived "two trackers past zoneline" rule implemented for Kunark.

Done.
If I'm not mistaken they dropped 4-5 pieces per kill on live too, as opposed the 2-3 we have now. It made it more worth your time to crawl through ToV for a boss.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:39 AM
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Pity reply.

Fingerz and Eratani nailed this.

Thanks for all my aftermeth pals and others who think this is way to much for something stupid. I mean, we concede the mob? You want me to pull it for you, DPS it down and make-up sex after?

I hope Rogean/Nilbog comes back to care about this server... Because sadly the GM's who deal with petition and raid stuff we got never raided in their lifes and have absolutely no fucking clue what they are doing.

A/A is the evil, anything else gets away with whatever they do. Killing mobs with no new FTE, stalling, kite, train... whatever you can do it ALL as long as you don't have a A/A guildtag.

To my Aftermeth pals, make me proud and dominate this 30days. When we back, lets tango again, its been fun! <3
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:43 AM
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your pull was dropped on us, intentional or not, Fesh was DROPPED on us, no one in awakened had agro and FTE on it anymore because Fesh FTE'ed our main tank while fighting eashen as soon as fesh got through the door. so someone flopped that dragon on our heads.

yes you conceded a lilbit after, but never bothered to talk to CSG about it AT ALL. so no, no one tried to work it out, with us.

accidents happen yes, but pulling a dragon into the camp of someone else while said dragon slaughters that entire raid is not an 'oops accident' and yer fine infraction. most of you guys logged out while it was rampaging through our camp with not much thought about getting him back to your own camp, or training him away from what i could see.

yer monk didn't know where your entire raid was? and pulled it anyway? i don't care if you guys fight him 1039109301577 times in 1 spot. you dont just assume it will always be the same, you KNOW where you are pulling a mob to before you tag shit so you can actually KILL it in said spot, especially when there were almost 300 people in the zone!!! YOU BE SURE!

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Old 03-01-2018, 11:47 AM
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:49 AM
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This time I'll AFK on TWO characters in your group!

Want to roll a group of 6 necromancers with me Lanuven and we can faceroll through content?
Tempting...
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:54 AM
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Wrong. NToV dragons dropped 2-3 in classic and Triplets dropped only 1-2. What you have is correct.

The issue is crawling NToV isn't worth it for individual dragons. However if the entire wing is up, crawling is very worth your time. Nerds can't contain themselves and allow his to occur though.
Well, correct beyond the fact that they aren't rooted.
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