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The temptation to cheat is understandable, yet unacceptable to act on. Doing so shows how little they care for the community or any repercussions as long as their selfish want ( or perhaps pathological need) is met. That is if they are even aware of such ramifications to begin with.

[loramin]

Do the people in your universe act against incentives?

[Legday]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do the people in your universe act against incentives?

To imply anybody that could use some extra money IRL(I assume that is what you mean by incentive) that has been accused/banned of RMT (easy for the GMs to get wrong) likely did what they were banned for...is stupid.

I remember when Kluwen RMT'd and over 500 accounts got banned, and then almost all of them were unbanned. The tactic that Braknar used back then was to nuke every account that Kluwen ever logged into, including my own, and then unban anybody that petitioned that either 1) didn't have any RMT looking transaction whatsoever, or 2) were able to prove that an RMT-looking trade or transfer was not actual RMT. Almost all of the 500 accounts were unbanned.

I don't know if Llandris learned from what Braknar discovered was a massive headache and was more careful about 110 accounts he banned. If not, he is likely in the middle of unbanning dozens of accounts.

Does that mean the innocents that got caught up in a blanket banning didn't have incentive? Personally I don't, but I would be willing to bet that most p99ers could use the cash that they would net from RMT.

Point being that on p99 I can guarantee that most RMT bans are people that technically had an incentive to RMT but did not RMT and got unbanned if the GM at that time was being fair (like Brak was).

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To imply anybody that could use some extra money IRL(I assume that is what you mean by incentive) that has been accused/banned of RMT (easy for the GMs to get wrong) likely did what they were banned for...is stupid.

I remember when Kluwen RMT'd and over 500 accounts got banned, and then almost all of them were unbanned. The tactic that Braknar used back then was to nuke every account that Kluwen ever logged into, including my own, and then unban anybody that petitioned that either 1) didn't have any RMT looking transaction whatsoever, or 2) were able to prove that an RMT-looking trade or transfer was not actual RMT. Almost all of the 500 accounts were unbanned.

I don't know if Llandris learned from what Braknar discovered was a massive headache and was more careful about 110 accounts he banned. If not, he is likely in the middle of unbanning dozens of accounts.

Does that mean the innocents that got caught up in a blanket banning didn't have incentive? Personally I don't, but I would be willing to bet that most p99ers could use the cash that they would net from RMT.

Point being that on p99 I can guarantee that most RMT bans are people that technically had an incentive to RMT but did not RMT and got unbanned if the GM at that time was being fair (like Brak was).

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(I assume that is what you mean by incentive)

When you assume you make an ass out of you and ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, I think you may have read a bit much into what I wrote. All I was saying was, the staff has no incentive to ban non-RMTers. When Llandris bans a non-RMTer he gets nothing: no plat, no real money, no pat on the back from Rogean ... nothing. So personally I would find it very hard to believe that there was any kind of conspiracy for a GM to ban non-RMTers (unless a particular GM had a grudge against a particular player or something).

But of course, if you want to get into the muck, yes the way staff handles these things is to sometimes do mass bans and then deal with the people afterwards who shouldn't have been banned. I wasn't at all trying to talk about the details of how they do the banning (ie. careful banning vs. mass banning and then fix some).

I was just saying that ultimately, their incentives are to get rid of RMTers; they get nothing out of getting rid of anyone else.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you assume you make an ass out of you and ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, I think you may have read a bit much into what I wrote. All I was saying was, the staff has no incentive to ban non-RMTers. When Llandris bans a non-RMTer he gets nothing: no plat, no real money, no pat on the back from Rogean ... nothing. So personally I would find it very hard to believe that there was any kind of conspiracy for a GM to ban non-RMTers (unless a particular GM had a grudge against a particular player or something).

But of course, if you want to get into the muck, yes the way staff handles these things is to sometimes do mass bans and then deal with the people afterwards who shouldn't have been banned. I wasn't at all trying to talk about the details of how they do the banning (ie. careful banning vs. mass banning and then fix some).

I was just saying that ultimately, their incentives are to get rid of RMTers; they get nothing out of getting rid of anyone else.

Misread your original post. You sir, are correct.

[JDFriend99]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To imply anybody that could use some extra money IRL(I assume that is what you mean by incentive) that has been accused/banned of RMT (easy for the GMs to get wrong) likely did what they were banned for...is stupid.

I remember when Kluwen RMT'd and over 500 accounts got banned, and then almost all of them were unbanned. The tactic that Braknar used back then was to nuke every account that Kluwen ever logged into, including my own, and then unban anybody that petitioned that either 1) didn't have any RMT looking transaction whatsoever, or 2) were able to prove that an RMT-looking trade or transfer was not actual RMT. Almost all of the 500 accounts were unbanned.

I don't know if Llandris learned from what Braknar discovered was a massive headache and was more careful about 110 accounts he banned. If not, he is likely in the middle of unbanning dozens of accounts.

Does that mean the innocents that got caught up in a blanket banning didn't have incentive? Personally I don't, but I would be willing to bet that most p99ers could use the cash that they would net from RMT.

Point being that on p99 I can guarantee that most RMT bans are people that technically had an incentive to RMT but did not RMT and got unbanned if the GM at that time was being fair (like Brak was).

I'd just like to know why llandris or any gm would feel the need as you put it to be careful when choosing accounts to ban. Isn't it his server? Pretty sure they could ban 800 and never have to offer any reason if they saw fit.

Real answer is play by the rules or suffer the consequences. You can look up consequences in a dictionary or Google as I know most Young bucks haven't any idea what that is.

I read the rules before I logged on in 2009. Because I also played on EZ where u had to box 8-12 to get stuff done.

Over my many years here, I've encountered soooo many players that didn't know we had rules let alone a Eula custom tailored to p99 with p99 rules. Fairly sure by now most know the rules. And if any gm or acting guide decides to Target you and u cannot comply, I say kick rocks and enjoy the black screen.

[IsiisAstarte]

What are RMT's?

[Bondrake]

Originally Posted by IsiisAstarte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are RMT's?

Registered Massage Therapists.

[bradsamma]

Originally Posted by IsiisAstarte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are RMT's?

Real Money Transfers. When people purchase items/platinum for real money or services.... such as massages!

[Hideousclaw]

Commented on this when it was posted but just a follow up post to say Thank You for your continued banning. Keep it up! Get that scum outta here.