Boxing

[someguy]

All I'm trying to say is, people are boxing. There is clearly a rule against it, yet people are doing it very openly. I have a girlfriend. Does she want to play EQ? Good heavens no. Could I convince her to play for atleast level 1-2, so I could get an IP exemption? Yes. Could I use that to circumvent the rules and box to my heart's content? Absolutley!

Why is there rules if there's very easy ways to get around them? There's people out there boxing VERY obviously, yet the GMs do nothing. So why do I have to lie and cheat if I want to box, instead of just doing it legitly? Seems a little ass backwards to me. If I wanted to pay $20 a month in 1999, I could have easiy done so. I didn't have to lie to Verant and cheat to box, I just had to give them a little extra cash. Seems like the GMs are promoting deception and lies as the server's basic principals.

[nilbog]

There's people out there boxing VERY obviously, yet the GMs do nothing.

You have no idea what the GMs do or have done. If you are talking about a particular individual, why don't you petition it? The blanket statement that the GMs do nothing though is ridiculous. I review the logs of all of them; you are completely wrong.

So why do I have to lie and cheat if I want to box, instead of just doing it legitly?

Because boxing more than 1 client per person is against the server rules.

Seems like the GMs are promoting deception and lies as the server's basic principals.

Nope.

As far as the rest of the thread, I've said my peace.

[Pimp1]

i have logs of admitted boxing, the char normally doesnt box but at the time he was and the GM basically ignored me and told me i was wrong and didnt bother checking the logs, because his char was the guild leader of the guild the boxer was in!!! troll on that!

[someguy]

yeah they "read all the logs of exempted ips," yet they want us to petition boxing. *rolls eyes*

it should be 1 account per IP NO EXEMPTIONS or box if you want to. pick one, because it's just not fair to those of us who are, hrm, you know.. honest?

[nilbog]

I review the logs of all of them; you are completely wrong.

yeah they "read all the logs of exempted ips," yet they want us to petition boxing. *rolls eyes*

The GMs' logs, not the players. You are assuming things I didn't say. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Its their job to watch you, and mine to watch them.

Its really not up for debate.. they are watched and reported and action has been taken against certain players. Your opinion of how things operate is noted.

[Danth]

"it should be 1 account per IP NO EXEMPTIONS or box if you want to. pick one, because it's just not fair to those of us who are, hrm, you know.. honest?"

Pray tell, how is *your* proposal fair to, say, my wife and I?

You worry too much about a few abusers.

Danth

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by someguy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeha cleric is lvl 40+ cleric healing a lvl 14 in oasis! wow! I SHOULD HAVE ROLLED ONE! that's boxing, folks. tell me it's not and ill call you a retard. i wasnt saying the lvl 13 cleric healing lvl 11-13s, but it just becomes unfair when the "room mate" is 40+ healing a teen..

that's why we don't have boxing, yet ppl are still doing just that

Dude... seriously... We're at the point of the server now where I'm handed Enamlled Black Maces to low level monks, buffing anyone I see in a newbie zone with lvl 50 cleric buffs, ppl are saving their corpses in stupidly out of whacked ZEM zones because they know one of the 5 49+ clerics will be by eventually..

Classic Launch is officially over. There's a zillion people artificially 45+, and it's far too late to go back now. It's not so much that boxing and twinking isn't (or won't be) an issue, it's just that it's not nearly the biggest elephant in the room when it comes to why this server is suddenly so out of whack.

If there is some level 50 cleric or druid twinking out some melees in oasis, he's only trying to get the toon to level 20, where he's no longer going to be needed outside of a quick group port to lavastorm. Every person I've told about this server in the last few weeks that has showed up and hit 20+ is just dumbfounded at SolA and how "people who played in 99 would think this is even remotely normal". And I shrug my shoulders and say "too late, dmg done". It's like watching Gordon Ramsey on TV with the girlfriend and not being able to convince her that he's Scottish/British. It's frustrating, but eventually you just basically give up and plan for the next big thing, cuz this is just going in a bad direction.

I'm sitting there during 200+ population peak as the only person in Lower Guk (maybe one other guy camping Evil Eye), and I'm running around picking off 6-7 nameds with enough time for a smoke break before repops.. Simultaneously /w all Soldungb comes back empty, there's 2-3 people camping spectres... There's a group of 6 level 20s killing zone in in mistmoore, there's one necro in unrest, and a pair of 50 shaman in Cazic Thule. Gee... I wonder where everyone could be?

Let's put all the cards on the table. The vision is dead, YOU ALL let it effing happen and stood by idly claiming that it sure "felt" classic.

Well it doesn't. It isn't. And now we got a zillion artificial 50s who are gonna get to log in one or two times a week to race to two dragons. Which was everyones favorite... err least favorite part of the classic experience.

We've seen a Plane of Sky / Hate / Nagafen progression. It's not jealousy, it's me banging my head against my computer desk wondering how people could spend this much time/effort on recreating EQC and being PRESENT for obvious holes in time line. I could care less if a GM was there or not, there's a dozen other people present who actually thought that was a natural flow of things. That's..... EMBARRASSING.... And puts a huge black eye on the server as a whole.

So yeah, you're gonna see *plenty* more level 50s healing people in Oasis. Cuz there isn't much more left to do till 51-60 in Kunark when people might be forced to actually grind legit for the first time. Woo hoo. At least Oasis is now more beneficial for the 50s than South Ro.

Yes we all love this server and are having the times of our lives recreating the experience we had 10 years ago. But once a week I'm good for a painfully long rant on the basics that continue to be mysteriously erroneous and unchanged. Cest La Vie.

[Harazzer]

No cmon, killing a teal gnome at level 47 should give 3% of the level, you must be crazy!

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Harazzer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No cmon, killing a teal gnome at level 47 should give 3% of the level, you must be crazy!

shh there is still a handful of people who aren't 50 yet.

[Goobles]

I want pie. Gimme.