As a christian.

[Patriam1066]

You’ll have to look up “limes” to know why the physical borders of either have little to do with the metaphysical concept that both represent. We are Rome, we always will be

But ok, sure, I hope we do take back our chip superiority that was first established in Dallas Fort Worth by engineers at Texas Instruments who graduated primarily from the University of Texas at Austin

[Seducio]

Much more likely that Ukraine situation devolves and NATO has to enter. We're much closer to a weird accidental crappy Nuclear moment than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis but you wouldn't know it by watching the news. All it takes is for Russia to get trigger happy and for us to go Ham. That is more likely than Taiwan currently. Still not a good situation though. WW3 breaks out world changes forever.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’ll have to look up “limes” to know why the physical borders of either have little to do with the metaphysical concept that both represent. We are Rome, we always will be

But ok, sure, I hope we do take back our chip superiority that was first established in Dallas Fort Worth by engineers at Texas Instruments who graduated primarily from the University of Texas at Austin

Some claim Rome is the closest thing to what we might be but it doesn't take into account the different stages of what Rome was., I actually don't think there is a comparable country/empire/replublic/democracy or whatever you want to call us. We're a new thing historically. Applying Rome logic to America will cause mistakes.

History doesn't repeat it rhymes.

[Patriam1066]

Taiwan is very likely because Xi is different than the last few patient leaders China has had. He cares less about building an economic juggernaut and more about ascendancy as it secures his throne. He cut his teeth in the age of Putin and Iran’s supreme leader. Belligerence has helped these guys stay in power. China’s economic rise only allowed previous heads of the communist party 10 years in leadership. We’re past that and in uncharted waters. It’s critical that deterrence is established now

I don’t think Intel and TSMC save us. I think the global south needs to be goaded to be more vocal in pushing back against Russia and China. As for the Russia stuff, I can’t imagine them using a nuke, but who knows. Like I said, uncharted waters

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some claim Rome is the closest thing to what we might be but it doesn't take into account the different stages of what Rome was., I actually don't think there is a comparable country/empire/replublic/democracy or whatever you want to call us. We're a new thing historically. Applying Rome logic to America will cause mistakes.

History doesn't repeat it rhymes.

Read the storm before the storm by the dude who made the history of Rome podcast. It’s an interesting one and actually well written. It’s about the period between gaius marius and Julius Caesar, when the stage was being set for political instability and the establishment of the principate

[Seducio]

For sure I think there are many many lessons from Rome's past. We just aren't Rome though because the two parties don't map neatly onto Roman politics. Rome was full of slaves. Rome had incredible technology for its time, but its not in the same realm of hyper computing and aviation technology that we currently have.

I think America will survive the current polarization. There are points in our history where things were way worse. Ie Civil War. And other times. Things simmer down after heating up. Eventually the boomers will pass and we'll focus on other stuff. Probably AI stuff and Genetic engineering stuff. And some new part of the world where the media convinces us we have to go help out for some reason or another. But the ultimate reason will be to feed the the Military Industrial Complex.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taiwan is very likely because Xi is different than the last few patient leaders China has had. He cares less about building an economic juggernaut and more about ascendancy as it secures his throne. He cut his teeth in the age of Putin and Iran’s supreme leader. Belligerence has helped these guys stay in power. China’s economic rise only allowed previous heads of the communist party 10 years in leadership. We’re past that and in uncharted waters. It’s critical that deterrence is established now

I don’t think Intel and TSMC save us. I think the global south needs to be goaded to be more vocal in pushing back against Russia and China. As for the Russia stuff, I can’t imagine them using a nuke, but who knows. Like I said, uncharted waters

I get you. There are differences. Ukraine has all of NATO chilling right behind it.

If we got into it with China, it's the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and UK. No NATO in this fight. Europe won't help and in fact they will be upset with us because Europe would see steep cost of living expenses from that kind of conflict.

It's almost a lose-lose-lose for everyone involved. The winners of that kind of conflict are actually India and Brazil.

[Patriam1066]

Japan will help, probably the Philippines as well. Those matter for basing and resupply + Japan actually has a navy

But yeah, I agree we’d all lose. I just don’t think the people running Russia and China care about their nations as much as they care about their grip on power

/shrug

[Seducio]

/agree

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure I follow everything you just said OP.

My suggestion to anyone that has a person in their life that is bringing them down is to confront that person to de-escalate the drama and failing that to exit that person from your world. Life is too short to put up with someone that is causing you the distress it appears to be causing you. This could be hard if its family or a boss. If this person is your boss then it could require courage and still not might be worth it unless you have alternative work opportunities. But if the person is your friend or a neighbor you might be surprised that many would respond with grace to asking for some space.

If someone is trying to manipulate you away from your chosen beliefs and you don't like that then the simplest response is to not be around that person.

Done and done in the kindest most assertive and gentle way. No threats. No telling them they are bad etc. Since had zero consensual contact with the individual and been in contact with a detailed report to my therapist.

Originally Posted by kloudie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Christians are supposed to turn the other cheek. You suck at your own religion.

Did. Many times over. I'm leaving now to my brother's for safety.

This person likely never will understand how far backwards everyone in our family has bent over for them. Because they are full of pride and jealousy and shame they will very likely never have gratitude or even be able to fathom the sacrifice and forgiveness levied there way.

I expect once they have no more targets and figure out that they will be the sole occupant of this house illegally. When the police arrive. They'll be on there way.


Family and neighbors coming together on this.

Definitely we need to reopen the insane asylums in this country.

I suppose we could focus our prayers on person X being able to be honest and truthful and sensitive and becoming able to understand Jesus Christ and his message on a personal level without all of the extra uneeded suffering. And maybe to respect others and Jesus himself for starters.