Moss covered Twig

[Wakanda]

It was always explained to me back in the day that the twig was removed because the damage was too insane. I feel like it was discussed excessively on the forums at the time. I never saw one in game though, so it’s basically hearsay at this point.

The reason I inquired about it in this thread is because I saw a YouTube video about the top 10 removed / nerfed EQ items, and the guy filming the video said the Twig was removed because it could push mobs. But I always heard the opposite, and that it was just insane dps.

I feel like fast weapons were a bigger deal in OG EQ in general. I remember jade maces, locustlure and lamentations were really popular compared to how they are now.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4

Some interesting comments from back in the day, although nothing too early. Still shows what a notorious item it was. I remember kicking myself for not getting one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was also some other stuff that got removed during this same time period, if I recall? Was there not some 15 damage harpoon when Kunark first came out that they quickly removed from the game?

[Wakanda]

I found it

https://wiki.project1999.com/Gunthak_Harpoon

I started to think I hallucinated this whole thing since it’s not listed under removed items in the wiki page

I guess they left it in game but changed it to no rent and made it weigh 20 pounds instead ��

Also does anyone know why they removed the ringed mace of ykesha? 10/WW with ykesha proc doesn’t seem that op, but I’m guessing it was too good for aggro or something?

[zelld52]

Fuckin hell DSM stop bringing up your DPS calculator.

You have someone telling you HOW IT WAS IN GAME FOR REAL.

Your response, "Yeah but my DPS calculator says..."

Step aside, sit down, take a walk, go home and all of that jazz

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuckin hell DSM stop bringing up your DPS calculator.

You have someone telling you HOW IT WAS IN GAME FOR REAL.

Your response, "Yeah but my DPS calculator says..."

Step aside, sit down, take a walk, go home and all of that jazz

He didn't post any evidence initally for his claims. There is no reason to simply take his word. Nor is my DPS calculator invalidated simply because you or someone else says so.

[zelld52]

https://imgur.com/a/AzqzyqB#S4yzb4M

Are you just sitting at your PC refreshing the thread so that you can reply if anyone conjurs you via saying "DSM"

OP said "Thank you" and exited this post on page 1, message 4. I think I'll do the same

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://imgur.com/a/AzqzyqB#S4yzb4M

Are you just sitting at your PC refreshing the thread so that you can reply if anyone conjurs you via saying "DSM"

OP said "Thank you" and exited this post on page 1, message 4. I think I'll do the same

You didn't need to post this. Nor did you need to post this:

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but you sure do like to finish em.. nothing wrong with just not responding

We saw in this thread multiple thoughts on why Twig might have been removed. There is nothing wrong with speculation.

If people want to make a historical claim of fact, leading with some evidence is the way to go. Not everybody is going to assume someone is correct simply because they say so. This includes myself, which I why I try to provide evidence whenever I can.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP said "Thank you" and exited this post on page 1, message 4. I think I'll do the same

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems to me that a weapon that does almost as much DPS as an epic, before epics were released, is a weapon that does exceptional DPS, regardless of whether it's the top DPS weapon or top-2 of its time.

There are other weapons that out-DPS Twig in-era as well. Addy Club was just one example. SK's can also use Twig, and Ebon Mace out DPSes Twig. There is more than one example.

The point I am making is the DPS from Twig was not wildly off-course for the era. It wasn't doing 2x the DPS of Addy Club. It was performing within range of existing weapons, it was just too easy to get.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you just sitting at your PC refreshing the thread so that you can reply if anyone conjurs you via saying "

Yes he is. Arguing on the P99 forums is literally the only thing he has going on in his life.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He didn't post any evidence initally for his claims.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say neither did you. Because you never do.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you do the (weapdmg x2 +db)/dly formula twig comes slightly ahead. So in the end it is down to how many procs you think you're going to get. Longer fights proc might win but on trash it isn't a given.

Hate is weapdmg + DB on every swing. And then procs.

The correct calculation was provided on the first page. No derpiest calculator required.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The delay on these weapons and the associated damage bonus to weapons in the primary hand made these weapons much too powerful for their availability and the risk associated with their acquisition

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say neither did you. Because you never do.

I provide plenty of evidence in multiple formats, everybody can check the post history. You just discredit yourself further. You provide plenty of lies. I didn't make a factual claim about the history. Zuranthium did.

Do you have any evidence you have ever provided evidence? People can look in my signature for my Youtube channel.