I hate this perma-camping shit

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, I'm not referring to engaging a mob that has spawned, but the time in between mob spawns. Hadden is a great example because of the length of his respawn. Is it AFK camping if the camp is cleared, Hadden is down, and you go AFK while the 5 hours pass that you are waiting for him to respawn? Are you camping the Hadden camp? Yes. Are you AFK? Yes. Does this mean you get kicked to the select screen despite following other rules that are in place on the server? Yes/No?

Personally i think they should drop this afk kick rule, its just... if youre afk after the mob pops, someone can take it and its QQ for you.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally i think they should drop this afk kick rule, its just... if youre afk after the mob pops, someone can take it and its QQ for you.

It took 100 post to come down to this, but its already like that sir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally i think they should drop this afk kick rule, its just... if youre afk after the mob pops, someone can take it and its QQ for you.

That's how it exists for regular camps right now. In fact, even a roll call exists to see if the raid force that has claim is AFK or not.

In essence, what you've described is how it currently works for camps and raid targets alike. The camps are just extremely long for raid targets.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how it exists for regular camps right now. In fact, even a roll call exists to see if the raid force that has claim is AFK or not.

In essence, what you've described is how it currently works for camps and raid targets alike. The camps are just extremely long for raid targets.

That's how it exists for regular and raid camps alike right now*

[braveheart]

kunark!!!

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's how it exists for regular and raid camps alike right now*

Well if GMs dont ply in to QQers that you took their mobs cuz they went to take a shit or whatever phony reason they come up with to justify they were afk camping, thats good. Cuz ive seen plenty of AFK camping at Hadden. And of course youd be afk camping, who in their right mind is gonna stay in front of a screen alert for 5 hours straight.

But thats not the main meat of my post, which was that people can perma-lock mobs and pass them on to their buddies.

[sidgb]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if GMs dont ply in to QQers that you took their mobs cuz they went to take a shit or whatever phony reason they come up with to justify they were afk camping, thats good. Cuz ive seen plenty of AFK camping at Hadden. And of course youd be afk camping, who in their right mind is gonna stay in front of a screen alert for 5 hours straight.

But thats not the main meat of my post, which was that people can perma-lock mobs and pass them on to their buddies.

I have seen AFK camping with the AFK flag up on the toon.

ANd yes they really were AFK.

[Phallax]

If caught AFK camping, no matter what spawn youre camping it is a bootable offense, Ive seen it personally at Hadden while i was trying to get Pyz to spawn.
Its not hard to AFK camp if you set your audio triggers. But if youre trully AFK and no where near the comp during a long respawn such as Hadden, ToV dude in HHP, anything thats a long ass camp. Its bootable.

Its an inconvenience at most but that sort of inconvenience can get annoying quickly when booted over and over.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Omnimorph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

T'is the nature of MMOs unfortunately, if you can't play hardcore and want content that people who can play hardcore want, then they're going to get it and you're not. That's why they introduced instancing. So everyone could experience the content not just the hardcore player.

yeppers. Like i have said it is unfair to push a rotation onto those that are hardcore. Just like it is unfair to push hardcore on those that want a rotation.

But life isnt fair so you have to choose to either play and live with the decision of the powers that be or not play.

Nizzarr sees the problem and only wants to try and find some kind of middle ground..which unfortunately there is not.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeppers. Like i have said it is unfair to push a rotation onto those that are hardcore. Just like it is unfair to push hardcore on those that want a rotation.

But life isnt fair so you have to choose to either play and live with the decision of the powers that be or not play.

Nizzarr sees the problem and only wants to try and find some kind of middle ground..which unfortunately there is not.

You are implying knowledge of Nizzarr's motivations. I find that to be a disingenuous statement.

The last time Nizzarr got involved with raiding rules, many of his ideas were implemented. He promptly left the server for about four months.

Now he's come back, found a loophole to exploit in his own rule system and is once again recommending changes to the rules to repair the problem he created with both his ideas and his behavior.

Based on his past actions, it would seem likely that Nizzarr will push for a rules change and then disappear from the server for several months. I think this is extremely abusive. It seems to me that Nizzarr is amusing himself by manipulating the policies and politics of the server and that he has very little vested interest in the community. Since returning, he has turned on his old guildmates and repeatedly accuses them of creating a situation which in fact he created.

I've known Nizzarr distantly since about 2001. I had great respect for him both as a person and as a player. That respect has disappeared in the last few weeks. I think Nizzarr is on a vendetta against Xzerion and Wonton and he doesn't care who or what gets in the way of his revenge. I think he's on a power trip and he feels no more loyalty to Dark Ascension or Project 1999 than he did toward Inglourious Basterds. Despite his assertions to the contrary, I think what's good for the majority of the server is of little concern to Nizzarr, and I think his lack of consideration for lower profile guilds like Transcendence and for pickup raids is evidence of that untruth.

If Nizzarr's demands for a rotation are implemented, I fully expect Nizzarr to enjoy a week or two of enjoyment from toppling Inglourious Basterds and ensuring that there is no top tier guild on Project 1999 and then disappear from the server once again until the next time he wants to mess with our server with very little commitment, responsibility or consequence.