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[leewong]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do also realize that your source material is coming from Acharya s.

I hope you don't find her as a competent authority on the historical nature of Jesus.

As I stated before, even the most conservative historian have trouble with the passage and it's claims. There isnt a single piece of evidence that supports it. Instead, the historical record and writings of contemporary historians (during Jesus's time) contradict it.

Maybe, Christians should be funding archeological digs and real science instead of relying on conjecture and hotly debated historical passages if they want to prove something.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I stated before, even the most conservative historian have trouble with the passage and it's claims. There isnt a single piece of evidence that supports it. Instead, the historical record and writings of contemporary historians (during Jesus's time) contradict it.

Maybe, Christians should be funding archeological digs and real science instead of relying on conjecture and hotly debated historical passages if they want to prove something.

She's not conservative, and she certainly isn't a historian.

[Korrupt]

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[leewong]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

She's not conservative, and she certainly isn't a historian.

And I never claimed she was either. Nice try though. Too bad your reading comprehension precludes you from any debate. Go sit down in the corner and put the dunce cap back on.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I never claimed she was either. Nice try though. Too bad your reading comprehension precludes you from any debate. Go sit down in the corner and put the dunce cap back on.

You used her website as proof for your argument. Thus saying she is an authority.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I never claimed she was either. Nice try though. Too bad your reading comprehension precludes you from any debate. Go sit down in the corner and put the dunce cap back on.

Ok. I reread the article you linked. Who are these conservative historians that are claiming that Tacitus is not reliable?

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I stated before, even the most conservative historian have trouble with the passage and it's claims. There isnt a single piece of evidence that supports it. Instead, the historical record and writings of contemporary historians (during Jesus's time) contradict it.

Maybe, Christians should be funding archeological digs and real science instead of relying on conjecture and hotly debated historical passages if they want to prove something.

I would like to see some of this evidence.
The legitimacy of Tacitus account is only debated by a handful of historians .
Ass a whole it is accepted.

[radditsu]

Everone who said anything about Jesus is an authority. It is what is inside your heart that counts.

[Lune]

Every religious denomination and most religions are just the original belief system adapted to any given culture.

Original Christianity (Paul the Apostle & pals), fragmented to serve many different cultures:

Eastern Orthodox for the eastern slavshits
Catholicism for the Mediterranean wops and some northern micks.
Protestantism for hardworking nordic people
Coptic sect for Africans

Much later, we saw Evangelicalism for people who are now so far removed from Jesus' original teachings that they ignore the vast majority of that wacky ancient scripture and catholic-esque ritualism that just doesn't apply to contemporary society anymore.

So I really don't know how you can take your own religious beliefs seriously when you know damn well that whatever pure form of Jesus's teachings once existed, have been twisted into a pretzel again and again to accommodate various belief systems.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I really don't know how you can take your own religious beliefs seriously when you know damn well that whatever pure form of Jesus's teachings once existed, have been twisted into a pretzel again and again to accommodate various belief systems.

That works out really well for most modern american Christians.

They hate the poor, the meek, the gay, the immigrants, the next state over, the coastal cities, the Canadians, medicine, the Europeans, the desperate, the president, the future president, the future, the sick, the dying, the female, the list goes on and on.

Oh but they donate to churches so that makes them good in Jesus's eyes right?! Even though those donations go back into the church campaigns against all the poor, the meek, the gay, the immigrants...