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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your ignoring the obvious goofiness of Americas low unemployment...yet inexplicably high under-employment and historically low participation in the workforce.

Edit: and the fact that our min wage isn't 30 bucks an hour and people on umemployment get like 70-85% of their former wage with full benefits...encouraging more lengthy unemployment "breaks" in people's lives. Fucking vaction time and workers rights, all this stuff is suppose to lower the employment rate...yet somehow they are ahead?

You know where they are not ahead? In innovation.

American innovation drives the cushy life you want someone else to give you money so you can enjoy.

I need to use your own quote against you:

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your ignoring the obvious

[JurisDictum]

The only reason we lead on innovation is because most American jobs are dead ends and more people try to start their own business/patents. Radical technological innovation is mostly just social networking websites and databases...

If you are arguing America is doing something to up the innovation of its population...what is that exactly? To me it seems like they are literally doing nothing, which means people have to find some new way to make money because everyone else is out of ideas.

[skarlorn]

medical innovation in america is awesome. i got my large intestine removed and don't have to live with a colostomy bag. This is fucking amazing and I even participated in research.

(this doesn't happen in socialist countries - socialists have to come to america to get the premo medi servces if they can afford it)

if there's something u want but u can't afford - and you're an employee - well then yes, maybe it's time to INNOVATE some BUSINESS an make MONEY

[Nibblewitz]

Insurance is a magnificent form of socialism.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason we lead on innovation is because most American jobs are dead ends and more people try to start their own business/patents. Radical technological innovation is mostly just social networking websites and databases...

If you are arguing America is doing something to up the innovation of its population...what is that exactly? To me it seems like they are literally doing nothing, which means people have to find some new way to make money because everyone else is out of ideas.

here im going to explain it to you in a simple metaphore

This is how life on the planet earth works:

1. it grows
2. it grows too big
3. it burns down
4. it grows back stronger

what we got going on is no wars, no catastrophes, no hardships. So all the cucks and mellenials are crying "we want more of the pie too! we dont want to do the type of work that WE want, not the type that pays the bills! So we deserve money from the goverment cus we're lazy and weak and stupid!"

In other words, we've over grown. Our population cannot maintain itself and barring leaving the planet, eventually if we continue at this rate nobody will have the right to have ANYTHING because there will be too many people for them to have free will

you're all stressed out about helping everyone.

calm down dude, a fire is coming, 2/3ds of people are gonna die

and then we'll grow back stronger.

NOW WHAT YOU DONT WANT in that scenario is to change the constitution to limit the bill of rights and empower the next goverment to do whatever the fuck it wants to the survivors.

Just play everquest, and get over it dude, we aint changing the country to be some soclialist utopia, becuse socilaist utopias turn to shit and everyone dies eventually.

The diff between them and america is america is designed so you will always have the same rights as a rich person

In socialsim you dont. You will become a slave for the rich folk durring any form of catastrophie

There WILL be a castrophie and its comming, 20 years? 10? hopefully trump jump starts it but I doubt it, praying that they decide north korea needs to go the way of american colony and that pushes china and russia to push their buttons and we can all enjoy the ride together.

OH and the only reason you would want to fight this natural course of events is IF you have some sort of religious idiology that humans were meant to be MORE than that, that we're destined for something greater and we should all change the way we naturally behave, to behave in a way that you think that idiology would want us to.. for example, not killing eachother out of fear of burning in hell, or maybe killing half of us so that the other half (the moral high ground folks like democrats think they are) can live more comfortably and they can re-create the other half in their image. So basically if you're going to say we should change the natural order, then you're a fuckn religious nut job. WHich I know you socialists HATE more than anything else in the world.

[skarlorn]

Fun fact: God LOVES humans Killing one another. Evidence: mankind killing itself for ever.

The religious doctrines of nonviolence are powerful programs to help grow human pop but it'd entirely a mental program designed by society and not God's sole will

Mick is right in his above post. U don't want government totalitarianism. Just ask any person who fled the USSR lad

[Wonkie]

how come americans like subsidizing european healthcare so much

are they cuckservatives?

[Irulan]

watching lulz negotiate up from 8 yr olds to 12 yr olds was worth a glance at this thread.

Carry on folks.

Keep that white patriarchy strong.

[mickmoranis]

socialist: you owe a debt your fellow man
libertarian: nobody owes debt to any man
capitalist: if you sign a contract you have some debt
corperatist: if you sign a contract you have a lot of debt
conservative: your debt is to the church
republican: your debt is to the AMERICAN church
communist: we will take care of your debt for you
authoritarian: we are here to collect your debt. shut up.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mick is correct though. Germany isn't a socialist state now and it wasn't under Hitler either...In Germany, the welfare state isn't a political football to the same degree as it is here in America -- allowing them to think straight.

But nevertheless -- these policies are labeled socialist by those that oppose them, and I would rather argue for the policies than dick around debating weather or not they are conservative or socialist.

Conservative welfare is welfare designed to keep society as it is. Compared to socialist welfare which has more of an equality goal in mind. That is all. But the German state started "conserving" their working class culture after WWII...unlike America. And we see the very different results for working people.

Germans think straight because they're German

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