Afghanistan Megathread

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Taliban was competent enough to institute a tyrannical theocracy when given a chance.
Maybe they aren't as similar as they seem.

Hey don't diss *Republicans, that's a feature not a bug!!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*I mean RINOs and other mainline Protestants of course.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Taliban was competent enough to institute a tyrannical theocracy when given a chance.
Maybe they aren't as similar as they seem.

Not to mention we have homeland security watching us too close now to take over

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention we have homeland security watching us too close now to take over

Didnt republicans invent DHS, ICE, and all those other over reaching american spy on ourselves agencies under the whole "we're gonna protect you" thing?

Yeah, it was.


So you hate your own Frankenstein monster?? Maybe dont vote republican and you wont end up with spy agencies lol.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt republicans invent DHS, ICE, and all those other over reaching american spy on ourselves agencies under the whole "we're gonna protect you" thing?

Yeah, it was.


So you hate your own Frankenstein monster?? Maybe dont vote republican and you wont end up with spy agencies lol.

Sorta, that was the neocons. Trump the paleocon firmly wrested control of the party from them and banished them to the wilderness. Their only outlet is posting snark on the lincoln project twitter and sucking Biden dick on thebulwark.com anymore.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didnt republicans invent DHS, ICE, and all those other over reaching american spy on ourselves agencies under the whole "we're gonna protect you" thing?

I hated it then when they started it, I've hated it all along, and I hate it now when the present folks in charge refuse to end it. By maintaining it, every administration since has become part of the problem too. I know exceedingly few people who actually approve. I regard it as more of one of many examples of how the federal government is largely beyond the control of the general populace.

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

No, we had good reason to go there. The mistake was staying without an effective plan in place. Occupations of fanatical populations CAN work--look at the occupation of Japan--but require good plans implemented fully. Half-measures won't get it done and this particular occupation was never going to succeed.

Danth

[Horza]

Right-wing internet culture is a real shitshow but stanning for the Taliban must be a new low.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right-wing internet culture is a real shitshow but stanning for the Taliban must be a new low.

“Afghanistan was a better place due to our presence, it is now an 8th century hellhole again without it. Great job”

“You sure about that or are you gullibly taking our military's propaganda at face value because it suits your bloodthirsty agenda?” - Horza

Who’s the secret Taliban supporter again?

[Horza]

I'm a Taliban supporter because I don't think our pointless twenty year occupation should instead be a pointless thirty or forty year occupation?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a Taliban supporter because I don't think our pointless twenty year occupation should instead be a pointless thirty or forty year occupation?

You think it’s in a better place in Taliban’s hands than ours. Is there any other way to interpret that?

[hobart]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think it’s in a better place in Taliban’s hands than ours. Is there any other way to interpret that?

Almost every country is in better hands with us than with their current leadership. We don't invade them all and occupy them for two decades.

Honestly, President Obama takes most of the blame here. By the last two years of Bush 43, it was clear to many/most that the Afghans would never be ready. Barry Smooth should have done this year 1 of his presidency, but he was shrewd enough to understand how petty and stupid the American electorate is, so he kicked the can down the road. Unfortunately for Sleepy Joe, he was the one left standing when the music stopped.