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[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess further athiesm imlplies the complete disbelief of something just because it is not scientific.

Thats pretty dumb. It's mechanical. And thoughtless.

Not disbelief because it is unscientific but because it has no evidence to support it. No one is claiming science knows everything. There are plenty of things outside the human scope of knowledge.

Ask yourself, "What has been the most reliable method for answering questions about the universe?". Do you have a better method?

"Thats pretty dumb. It's mechanical. And thoughtless."

Says the guy typing on a computer produced by the very methodology he is slamming. How many monks does it take to invent a microwave?

"But no one is willing to pull their heads out their asses and take the leap from cynisism to true skeptisism"

Ughh, you do know what peer review is and why it exists, right? Scientists are skeptics to the absolute core. Are you being skeptical about your own beliefs? You certainly are acting like you alone have the answers.

[runlvlzero]

Eh live in misery as you want. Wish I knew how to truly spread enlightenment. But thats not what I'm here for. I'll let some other poor smuck chase that dream.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh live in misery as you want. Wish I knew how to truly spread enlightenment. But thats not what I'm here for. I'll let some other poor smuck chase that dream.

Who is living in misery? Dont project your shit on me.

[runlvlzero]

Also, it could very well be that there is something and those that believe in that something all just simply put there own face on it. Who cares if that ants worship the kids on the playground all differently as dieties who drop candy crumbs everywhere...

it's likely that we don't even know what we are doing, and in that I trust people to make up their own minds in how they worship this unknown which we can learn about but never ever conquer in its infinity

[runlvlzero]

It's easy to let certainty cloud ones ability to observe the facts and experience the truth. Happens all the time. Therefore anything that preaches certainty is probably the most flawed human creation ever.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Therefore anything that preaches certainty is probably the most flawed human creation ever.

Are you certain? If so, you are the most flawed human on earth and therefor wrong. If not, then the statement is false.

[runlvlzero]

I'm not preaching certainty, in that I know athiesm is wrong. I just don't think it's likely to be right and i'm pretty flexible. Therefore religion... whatever the original OP was talking about.

Aint no prob it will always be, like I said, and we could wipe it out, eventually it'll probably turn up again or we'll end up running into it.

religion or lack there of is just another dealwithitglasses.jpg and people can srsly decide to be asses about what they believe or dont believe or we can all take reality with a grain of salt, which is what i'm advocating we spread around. maybe we should make a religion about doing that?

[runlvlzero]

yeah Op just mad because people tried to organize their beliefs and use it for financial gain at some point, thread so derailed from there.

thats an amoral thing to do, don't care what you believe in, needless to say met plenty 'religious' or 'spiritual' people who are super nice and awesome and dont fucking douche around

also met plenty 'athiests' who can all frakking go to hell and die and would love nothing other than to kill babies and puppies, it makes me fucking sick

[runlvlzero]

I don't know you all seem very unhappy about religion and stuff, considering the 184 pages of replies about it.

Also. You can't genuinely call yourself an athiest if your not 100% sure about the lack of god(tm)

I didn't slam science. It has its place, great for making computers and nuclear bombs and all kinds of other fun shit. But it doesn't replace lots of other things like vision, and astral projection, or good feelings about life, can it help lead to some of that yeah.

But you can't soley depend on science. I mean no one has even invented an entirely synthetic food that can sustain human life yet. Will they one day. But it will always be 'empty'

hence thoughtless machines

the computers are only great because they are driven by more than just the drip drip of time. there's the entire complex universe driving my thoughts of what I mash out on this keyboard

stop thinking so concretely is all I ask. And yep, I'm calling athiesm a concrete ideal.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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"I don't know you all seem very unhappy about religion and stuff, considering the 184 pages of replies about it."

184 pages because the subject interests me. I find joy in perusing my interest. Lucky for me I can. I still think you are projecting.

"Also. You can't genuinely call yourself an athiest if your not 100% sure about the lack of god(tm)"

Yes I can...watch me. I am an atheist. There is no such thing as 100% certainty. There is nothing in the claim "there is no evidence for a god(s)" that requires 100% certainty.

"I didn't slam science."

Yes, you did. The words mechanical and unthinking come to mind. Do you mind if I call you mechanical and unthinking? It isnt a slam I promise.

"and astral projection"

Oh boy...not even going to touch this.

"stop thinking so concretely is all I ask. And yep, I'm calling athiesm a concrete ideal."

Says the guy making a concrete statement.