Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[loramin]

Their behavior was at times bad also, but they at least were genuine.

You have to understand, lots of people in this forum disagree with each other, and sometimes even say mean things to each other. But you are uniquely disengenuous.

To expand on that, when Ripzoko pops into a thread with a hot take on something, everyone in the community knows he's just being contrarian to troll, because he doesn't pretend otherwise.

But you pretend to be a normal, rational person ... and then ruin every conversation you participate in by being insanely disengenuous. NO ONE ELSE IN THIS FORUM DOES THAT.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go read the shit he posted about enchantering and such. He was so wrong about so many topics and all of the evidence he could provide was anecdotal at best. He'd test things for fewer than 10 iterations and declare them as fact.

Oh, he may well have been (I'm not going to go read the threads, and I don't play an Enchanter, but I have no reason to disbelieve you).

I'm just saying he knew how to throw out a cool idea, and then work with the community to build a better version of that idea through consensus. And the Solo Artist Challenge absolutely was a cool idea.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their behavior was at times bad also, but they at least were genuine.

You have to understand, lots of people in this forum disagree with each other, and sometimes even say mean things to each other. But you are uniquely disengenuous.

To expand on that, when Ripzoko pops into a thread with a hot take on something, everyone in the community knows he's just being contrarian to troll, because he doesn't pretend otherwise.

But you pretend to be a normal, rational person ... and then ruin every conversation you participate in by being insanely disengenuous. NO ONE ELSE IN THIS FORUM DOES THAT.

So you believe literal trolling from Samoht and Zuranthium is fine if they match your definition of "genuine"? Genuine trolls get to troll the wiki and OP and break the rules because they are "genuinely" acting like the assholes they are?

[loramin]

Again, everyone else in this entire forum falls into two categories.

1) Rational human - these people frequently disagree with each other ... but they do so on top of a layer of decency. If A and B disagree, A can listen to why B disagrees, and either change their mind, or they can convince B to change his opinion. Ultimatley, there's a presumption that everyone is playing for the same side, truth, and that you "win" by getting everyone to see the truth of reality.

2) Trolls - these people disagree for illogical reasons. They can't be convinced to change their opinion, because they don't actually believe in it.

Now both Samo and Zura probably fell into category #2 at some point in this thread (I'm too lazy to go back and find examples, but I think I remember it). However, they were explicitly trolling you when they were.

You, again, are unique ... and not in a good way. You are the forum's only

3) Falsely sincere disengenuous poster - you engage in conversations to prove your brilliance and win forum fights, but when a disagreement arises there is zero chance you will listen to the other side: in fact, if they present more logical evidence, you will just double down on stupid, and keep arguing against that logic no matter what.

Ask yourself this: is any other poster so insecure about their posts that they feel the need to always get the last word in? No, because they care about truth and reality: they know that "winning" a forum thread by repeating the wrong thing until everyone gives up on talking to you isn't really winning anything.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, everyone else in this entire forum falls into two categories.

1) Rational human - these people frequently disagree with each other ... but they do so on top of a layer of decency. If A and B disagree, A can listen to why B disagrees, and either change their mind, or they can convince B to change his opinion. Ultimatley, there's a presumption that everyone is playing for the same side, truth, and that you "win" by getting everyone to see the truth of reality.

2) Trolls - these people disagree for illogical reasons. They can't be convinced to change their opinion, because they don't actually believe in it.

Now both Samo and Zura probably fell into category #2 at some point in this thread (I'm too lazy to go back and find examples, but I think I remember it). However, they were explicitly trolling you when they were.

You, again, are unique ... and not in a good way. You are the forum's only

3) Falsely sincere disengenuous poster - you engage in conversations to prove your brilliance and when forum fights, but when a disagreement arises there is zero chance you will listen to the other side: in fact, if they present more logical evidence, you will just double down on stupid, and keep arguing against that logic no matter what.

Ask yourself this: is any other poster so insecure about their posts that they feel the need to always get the last word in? No, because they care about truth and reality: they know that "winning" a forum thread by repeating the wrong thing until everyone gives up on talking to you isn't really winning anything.

You have repeated this delusion probably 100+ times now. Nobody cares how you fantasize about me. This ruins any chance at pretending you can be impartial when it comes to a disagreement between myself and another poster.

Why can't you just admit Samoht and Zuranthium trolled the wiki? Do you honestly believe they were acting in good faith in this thread?

[loramin]

Why can't you act in good faith, in all threads? You cause so much damage with the way you post currently (this thread being example numero unno). Just stop, and post like all the other reasonable people.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go read the shit he posted about enchantering and such. He was so wrong about so many topics and all of the evidence he could provide was anecdotal at best. He'd test things for fewer than 10 iterations and declare them as fact.

His enchanter guide is pretty fucking solid to this day, you'll have to point to specific cases and even then you'd probably be nitpicking. Honestly for a while I wanted to make a new one but I figured 80-90% of it would basically be loraen's.

His SAC is the yardstick because he made the first and only one so if we're to come up with a new one it should at least be better. Getting all those kills done is a lot of work.

[loramin]

And to be clear, I don't care what you post: argue that X is or isn't a viable solo target. I truly don't care which.

Just post honestly and genuinely.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why can't you act in good faith, in all threads? You cause so much damage with the way you post currently (this thread being example numero unno). Just stop, and post like all the other reasonable people.

Why can't you just admit Samoht and Zuranthium trolled the wiki? Do you honestly believe they were acting in good faith in this thread?

Even if everything you say about me is 100% true (which it isn't), it doesn't excuse Zuranthium and Samoht trolling the wiki, or you defending their actions.

[loramin]

Maybe you haven't noticed, but this forum has trolls. They aren't going away, even if they do hurt your feelings.

Be a big boy like all the other rational posters in the forum: ignore the trolls.