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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Your right on the birth aspect, but your post doesn't imply that, it implies that it is impossible to have another species from a previous species without similarities."

I didnt imply anything. I said exactly what I meant. It IS impossible to have a new species that doesnt share similarities with it's nearest ancestor. A whale isnt going to give birth to a bird (even though these have similarities still). Instead, a whale will give birth to another whale with minor differences but still a whale. Repeat that process over and over and over and over....for billions of years....that is what evolution is.

"After robot made a comment about a horse eventually become a 4-toed creature of squirrel size, you said that wasn't possible then, now it is to try and save face."

I said a horse doesnt give birth to a squirrel not that a horse cannot eventually evolve into a squirrel like creator. The point is, the horse would first give birth to horse that has some mutation that makes it .000001% more like a squirrel. Then those traits would have to be selected for. Repeat that same process a few hundred times over the course of millions of years and boom...you got yourself a squirrel-like creature.

"some weird infatuation with Darwin"

Lol, what? I havent even read the Origin of Species....imagine that. Science has long moved on since Darwin. I give the man credit but modern science has a better grasp on the mechanisms of evolution than he did. He was even...gasp...wrong on some things! It's not like all science stopped when he died or every word he uttered is infallible unchanging truth.

Science, unlike your religion, isnt ruled by edict. It is ruled by experiment and evidence. It is an ongoing process that will never have all the answers but it has the BEST answers. As soon as you answer one question, "What is an atom made of?" you have made 50 more questions, "What are the individual parts that make up and atom made of?", etc. Some may see that as a flaw in science but I think it is the best part.

So you, being a man who bases everything off of everyone else just getting what you are saying, and all the implications you have, blah blah blah. You now claim that those exact three posts you were being 100% literal in. If that is the case, I apologize, but it is more probable than not, you weren't.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be conflating if he didn't ask for an example. He asked how someone could do said numbers in "religion". I gave him an example.

Let me rephrase this. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH IT. IT FITS THE CRITERIA HE PROVIDED TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

No, I even rephrased the question 3 different ways 40 pages back. You still dont understand the question in even the basic sense.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you, being a man who bases everything off of everyone else just getting what you are saying, and all the implications you have, blah blah blah. You now claim that those exact three posts you were being 100% literal in. If that is the case, I apologize, but it is more probable than not, you weren't.

No, I expect motherfuckers like you to understand English or have a 4th grade reading comprehension. If you cant understand the conversation then perhaps you should take a seat.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Observe something then ask a question - "I wonder how big Earth is..."

2. Think of an experiment to determine an answer to that question - "With some fancy math and measurements of shadows from two locations that are far apart I can answer this!"

3. Conduct the experiment

4. Have others repeat the experiment to confirm the results. If they match up to yours...congrats. You just solved a question using the scientific method.

You can't observe prayer?

You can't determine an experiment to be done to determine if prayer works or not?

You can't conduct a prayer?

You can't find several people who confirm prayer works?

What am I not getting?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I expect motherfuckers like you to understand English or have a 4th grade reading comprehension. If you cant understand the conversation then perhaps you should take a seat.

Really? What credentials do you have to speak on behalf of scientists that create these theories? Like I've pointed out in several threads, your own contradictions, it destroys basically all your credibility. You clearly should be letting other people argue. I really enjoyed paul for a bit before he basically said he lets people into his house that preach the words of some religion so that he can just ridicule them.

Kaga has never had any respected opinion. And all the other people haven't even been in this thread long enough to even argue anything more than a couple posts because in reality, this thread is a piece of shit and has been a huge circle jerk for over 100 pages now. I'm really still here because I have nothing else to do and find your outposts in the above quote pretty hilarious.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't observe prayer?

You can't determine an experiment to be done to determine if prayer works or not?

You can't conduct a prayer?

You can't find several people who confirm prayer works?

What am I not getting?

The question > *

Your head > .

Go back and read the three times I rephrased it for you. I tried to make it as simple as possible and you still dont get it.

[Eliseus]

outbursts even.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be conflating if he didn't ask for an example. He asked how someone could do said numbers in "religion". I gave him an example.

Let me rephrase this. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH IT. IT FITS THE CRITERIA HE PROVIDED TO HAVE AN EXAMPLE.

Ok. It was still a terrible conflated example. It did nothing to show even a remote correlation between scientific method and religion. I don't know how how to break it down for you any more.

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, are you an idiot? I'm currently, right now, responding to you in text that you have made it quiet apparent, you understand, or you wouldm't respond in the manner you do.

Your post illustrates my point more effectively than any rebuttal I could have come up with.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? What credentials do you have to speak on behalf of scientists that create these theories? Like I've pointed out in several threads, your own contradictions, it destroys basically all your credibility. You clearly should be letting other people argue. I really enjoyed paul for a bit before he basically said he lets people into his house that preach the words of some religion so that he can just ridicule them.

Kaga has never had any respected opinion. And all the other people haven't even been in this thread long enough to even argue anything more than a couple posts because in reality, this thread is a piece of shit and has been a huge circle jerk for over 100 pages now. I'm really still here because I have nothing else to do and find your outposts in the above quote pretty hilarious.

Stayed 30 minutes late at work to argue this crap :P Will carry on the convo when I get home in 2-3 hours. Then I will happily answer your question.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question > *

Your head > .

Go back and read the three times I rephrased it for you. I tried to make it as simple as possible and you still dont get it.

I just asked what I'm not getting, and you aren't pointing it out. I have exactly what you said quoted, and still don't see what I'm missing. It's your job to make me understand your question if I don't supposedly understand it. I answered exactly what you asked. It is probable you that is fucking up and not asking properly what you want.