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[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46)

Ya omitted that part I see.

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6)

God approves!

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11)

Yet another exception to your 'points'.

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21)

Kinda contradictory to your little tooth/eye example huh?

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 )

That's the new testament!

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2)

More new testament wholesomeness.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48)

They don't know what's wrong, but beat them anyway. Jesus approves! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

As is the case with every Bible-related question, the issue of slavery must be considered in context. A careful examination of the Scriptures reveals that God deplores the mistreatment of humans.


Such an examination also reveals that the kind of slavery practiced by God’s people in the Bible is not the cruel and abusive slavery that is envisioned by most people today. And the Bible shows that God will deliver us from all forms of slavery in due time. Then, all mankind will enjoy true freedom.—Isaiah 65:21, 22.

[katrik]

You all need jobs.

[Glenzig]

The Bible gives no indication that the enslavement of humans by other humans was part of God’s original purpose for mankind. Furthermore, no Bible prophecies allude to humans owning fellow humans through slavery in God’s new world. Rather, in that coming Paradise, righteous ones “will actually sit, each one under his vine and under his fig tree, and there will be no one making them tremble.”—Micah 4:4.


Clearly, the Bible does not condone the ill-treatment of others in any form. On the contrary, it encourages respect and equality among men. (Acts 10:34, 35) It exhorts humans to treat others the way that they would like to be treated. (Luke 6:31) Moreover, the Bible encourages Christians humbly to view others as superior, regardless of their social standing. (Philippians 2:3) These principles are totally incongruous with abusive forms of slavery practiced by many nations, especially in recent centuries.

[Patriam1066]

If Christ believed in an afterlife, and if he knew slaves rebelling against their masters would simply be murdered, why wouldn't he advise them to submit to bondage? Why did MLK not advise blacks to fight in a bloody rampage against whites. Practicality is always lost on you idiots. Slave revolts never work. However, if you assume the moral high ground, people generally, as an introspective reaction, tend to see the evil in their ways.

Christ advised the obedience of slaves. That's 1000x better of a strategy than anything you dip shits could come up with. Ask Spartacus or Nat Turner.


Also way to bring back a shitty thread

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Christ believed in an afterlife, and if he knew slaves rebelling against their masters would simply be murdered, why wouldn't he advise them to submit to bondage?

Lol, so funny how Christians try and justify these passages. Why didnt Jesus command the slave owners to NOT OWN SLAVES in the first place? You say it is to save slaves lives but isnt murder also wrong? The slave owners were already going against Jesus's will by killing runaways. SO WHY CONDONE IT?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, so funny how Christians try and justify these passages. Why didnt Jesus command the slave owners to NOT OWN SLAVES in the first place? You say it is to save slaves lives but isnt murder also wrong? The slave owners were already going against Jesus's will by killing runaways. SO WHY CONDONE IT?

God works in mysterious ways ofc.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, so funny how Christians try and justify these passages. Why didnt Jesus command the slave owners to NOT OWN SLAVES in the first place? You say it is to save slaves lives but isnt murder also wrong? The slave owners were already going against Jesus's will by killing runaways. SO WHY CONDONE IT?

1. this has nothing to do with christianity
2. The slave owners had christ killed. His followers were the poor and the downtrodden... His theology, at the time of his life, would have zero effect on the actions of those who own slaves. You guys don't see religion as history, which is your biggest problem. Christ, as a historical figure, had influence over a very limited number of people. He was preaching to them.

Whatever theology has occurred since then is attributable only to individual theologians, not to the man himself. Religion is a fluid, living thing than reflects cultural changes. One day you'll understand that.
Ignore thousands of years of collective wisdom of your ancestors at your own peril.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. this has nothing to do with christianity
2. The slave owners had christ killed. His followers were the poor and the downtrodden... His theology, at the time of his life, would have zero effect on the actions of those who own slaves. You guys don't see religion as history, which is your biggest problem. Christ, as a historical figure, had influence over a very limited number of people. He was preaching to them.

Whatever theology has occurred since then is attributable only to individual theologians, not to the man himself. Religion is a fluid, living thing than reflects cultural changes. One day you'll understand that.

Thats the whole point though, that in 2014, such ideologies provided in the book are too antiquated and have no place in a productive society today.

Ignore thousands of years of collective wisdom of your ancestors at your own peril.

Scientific progress is indeed amazing and those who refuse to learn from everything that our ancestors have achieved are the greatest threat of all.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Religion is a fluid, living thing than reflects cultural changes. One day you'll understand that.

Its not living