The People vs. Nirgon. Charges: Illiteracy, Obstruction of Justice, Cowardice.

[Benanov]

Originally Posted by Sethius Marlowe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The original issue I had wasn’t that I cared whether or not the guild was borderline racist or that they had clear evidence of pretending to be black people. The issue I had was that they just wouldn’t admit it and they never really did. I mean. They just kind of kept evading acknowledging that there were certain examples of pretending erudite were black people and quite honestly I don’t know how fickle it is that after like 80 pages of trying to get them to own up to it and failing you just kind of give up and move on with your life.

The truth is I’ve grouped with dmo a bunch and they are mostly really nice people. And I honestly do believe people like nirgon try to cut down on overt racist things where they see it happening but they also turn a blind eye to what some might consider borderline behavior and others might not. Examples being snewp dog. Basketball. Lamar Odom. Etc. I mean. I still think they just kind of let it slide. But I also don’t really honestly care whether they are slightly racist or closet racist or what. I only ever cared that they were lying about pretending there weren’t any borderline issues. And I guess I still care about that but not as much as I care about being a wacky goofball that plays forumqjest for fun while he works until kunark comes out and I start playing the game again and emerge as the King Iksar Warrior of the server that I am.

You know, if you didn't use the word "racist" - which makes everyone assume the worst - when your concern is borderline stuff...you've lost the war.

Your word choice and positions and zealotry left nuance behind 80 pages ago. You need to say what you actually mean and approach us as if we're people who can be reasoned with and talked two instead of enemies on "the other side."

Instead of flailing around crying racism at what are best three or four examples, you could have said "hey I recognize you guys aren't racist, and are trying to do norrathian RP, but there are some borderline things, what do you think about them"

..but since you had to bring out the big guns for such small targets we weren't interested in that conversation...and we are not ever going to be interested in that conversation as long as you are the other party.

[Mblake81]

[posts selfies]

[Hazek]

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[Sethius Marlowe]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, if you didn't use the word "racist" - which makes everyone assume the worst - when your concern is borderline stuff...you've lost the war.

Your word choice and positions and zealotry left nuance behind 80 pages ago. You need to say what you actually mean and approach us as if we're people who can be reasoned with and talked two instead of enemies on "the other side."

Instead of flailing around crying racism at what are best three or four examples, you could have said "hey I recognize you guys aren't racist, and are trying to do norrathian RP, but there are some borderline things, what do you think about them"

..but since you had to bring out the big guns for such small targets we weren't interested in that conversation...and we are not ever going to be interested in that conversation as long as you are the other party.

Let's be honest. Do you really think everyone would have acted like adults and had an adult conversation if we just did it that way instead? Cause I think there's no fucking way in hell that that would have unfolded like that.

"Why hello good sir, I have an issue, here is my complaint"

"Oh okay, good sir, I see your issue and here is my direct response to your complaint, hopefully our matters are resolved."

Fuck no. Like. I literally kinda tried that anyway and it was shim sham evasion flim flam deflection all the way to page 100 and all along the way I just kind of stopped giving a shit and focused on what really matters like the progressive forward thinking person I am. And that is that I'm your president and Nirgon is your King and we run this city.

This is rants and flames. I.e. forumquest drama llama theatrical stage stuff. This place exists for entertainment whilst posing actual points.

[Jack N]

Sethius is terrible at everything including backpedaling.

[Benanov]

Originally Posted by Sethius Marlowe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest. Do you really think everyone would have acted like adults and had an adult conversation if we just did it that way instead? Cause I think there's no fucking way in hell that that would have unfolded like that.

It doesn't matter if *everyone* acted like adults.

What matters is "Would Benanov have acted like an adult?" and the answer is Yes. And in that case, were you to come to me, like others have, and presented complaints like an adult, we would have had an adult conversation. Even if that conversation was in RnF.

You think this Officer tag is just for inviting people? It's a social convention - sure - one that doesn't translate well to EQ and digital games IMNSHO, but we've held to it - mostly for the convenience of outsiders.

The fact that you thought so little of us is telling.

The fact that you decided to buy into the internet points mentality of RnF is also telling.

[Wrekt]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter if *everyone* acted like adults.

What matters is "Would Benanov have acted like an adult?" and the answer is Yes. And in that case, were you to come to me, like others have, and presented complaints like an adult, we would have had an adult conversation. Even if that conversation was in RnF.

You think this Officer tag is just for inviting people? It's a social convention - sure - one that doesn't translate well to EQ and digital games IMNSHO, but we've held to it - mostly for the convenience of outsiders.

The fact that you thought so little of us is telling.

The fact that you decided to buy into the internet points mentality of RnF is also telling.

You carry water for people who are racist. Nothing you say, no matter how hard you try to seem reasonable, matters. Deal with the racists in your guild or you're just as bad as they are and own the fact that DMO condones overt racism.

[solleks]

TLDR bald-kidless gets cucked by DMO

[CancerMage]

there are like 2 people that actually thinks DMO is racist, one of them got banned, the other is you. Maybe it's you that has a problem. Just saying.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by CancerMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are like 2 people that actually thinks DMO is racist, one of them got banned, the other is you. Maybe it's you that has a problem. Just saying.

Lol.

He keeps calling me racist too but has zero evidence because it doesn't exist.