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Old 04-05-2013, 07:55 AM
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I think you take an oath or something that directly contradicts what you're saying right now.
I also didn't believe in the "under god" part when I was told to recite the pledge of allegiance in 3rd grade, did I do it? Yes. Did I agree with the general principle of the Pledge? Yes.

But this isn't some movie or fairy tale where people ignore common sense or humanity over some Oath or Pledge.

The oath is a tradition, an archaic one imo at that. If I get told to slaughter some one for no fucking reason I'm not going to do it.

If you believe most people in the military would then you are naive or gullible, people don't magically lose their common sense because they enlist in the military.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:00 AM
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people don't magically lose their common sense because they enlist in the military.
Then explain Abu Ghraib

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Old 04-05-2013, 08:03 AM
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they didnt lose common sense, they never had any

i also highly doubt they were "ordered to do that"

they where wut i referenced earlier "handful of retards out of millions"

didnt those guys all get kicked out btw?
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:04 AM
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they didnt lose common sense, they never had any

i also highly doubt they were "ordered to do that"

they where wut i referenced earlier "handful of retards out of millions"

didnt those guys all get kicked out btw?
Just like Perun is the only SEQ user in late-model IB, and just like he only did it once, I'm sure you're right.

WTF, no.

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Old 04-05-2013, 08:07 AM
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those people are morans. there are morans everywhere. there are some pretty dumbass civilians, does that mean all civilians are dumbasses? cmon man, no matter what organization you find, there will always be someone doing something wrong.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:09 AM
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those people are morans. there are morans everywhere. there are some pretty dumbass civilians, does that mean all civilians are dumbasses? cmon man, no matter what organization you find, there will always be someone doing something wrong.
Ya just like perun was the only bad apple and just like he only did it once, I'm sure the military is full of bronies and cat lovers and appreciators of ballet except those 2 people in that one picture.
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:54 AM
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Do you not take your oath seriously?
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:58 AM
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actually it is a soldiers responsibility to do what is right legally or morally. if an officer is giving you a wrongful order, you have the right to refuse. soldiers != lemmings.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:01 AM
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actually it is a soldiers responsibility to do what is right legally or morally. if an officer is giving you a wrongful order, you have the right to refuse. soldiers != lemmings.
What if the order is rightful?
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:59 AM
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i think some people in this thread base the military off of movies, lawl
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