Women of Norrath, what's your experience?

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't feel like I have ever received preferential treatment for being female playing MMOs. On the other hand I don't feel like I've ever been treated badly because of it either. I don't go out of my way to tell people I am a girl but if someone asks me I don't have a reason to lie about it.

The most mind-boggling thing that happens to me is that occasionally someone doesn't believe I am actually female IRL. At that point I don't really care if anyone believes me, because I don't have anything to prove to anyone on P99. The only people who really matter to me have heard me talk in TS, and know whether or not I am.

There is that one guy every once in awhile that is creepy and pervy (especially after hearing me talk in TS) but those experiences are pretty far and few between.

You should hear her in TS too. 5 dollars for 10 mins to chat with her [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[GlassMachine]

Just like life, you get what you put into these games.

My experience has been quite different than many of the posts in this thread. The girls who have caused the most drama were either a.) looking for attention from guys, b.) 13 or younger, or c.) both.

For the most part, I played with the kind of people that I like to hang out with irl. Smart, dedicated people who are also really chill. I was in a raiding guild on wow that was in the top five 25m guilds on our server, and 1/3 of our raid force were female. 2 of which were officers (myself as the dps officer, another as the heal officer). Both of us pulled top numbers and earned our spots after a lot of hard work, they were not given to us.

As for me, I just play. Being female doesn't give me an advantage unless I actively persue one, and I don't need to. I'm better than that, and many of the girls I played with felt the same way.

And on a final note - those girls that discriminate against other girls are just perpetuating a stereotype. Grow the fuck up, not every girl is a threat to you. Get some self-respect.

[knix]

Originally Posted by GlassMachine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And on a final note - those girls that discriminate against other girls are just perpetuating a stereotype. Grow the fuck up, not every girl is a threat to you. Get some self-respect.

I discriminate against myself. is that a problem?

[Jarnauga]

After almost 4 years in here and creeping on dozens of female:

They're pretty much like guys. Mostly good with the exceptional bad apples.

it's like guys and women are the same omg.

Except boobz.

[GlassMachine]

Originally Posted by knix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I discriminate against myself. is that a problem?

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[Ajkuhuun]

And on a final note - those girls that discriminate against other girls are just perpetuating a stereotype. Grow the fuck up, not every girl is a threat to you. Get some self-respect

I was the only one who mentioned that so guessing it's aimed at me. I've been a guild leader for close to 15 years, both on a casual and raid level, and when I say I think twice about inviting a girl over a guy it's due to experience...15 years of various girls causing major rifts in guilds and sadly it's usually because of a cyber situation which got out of hand. It's got nothing to do with being threatened, to be threatened you have to be cashing in on some aspect of being female and that's just not me. When I did hardcore gaming it was about just that, the game.

Now that being said girls don't have a monopoly on drama, but as a guild leader who has dealt with these situations for years and the aftermath...well...matters of the heart rip apart a guild in a more cataclysmic way than a loot dispute. Again, my own experience talking here, other folks may have had different experiences, but when I ran a serious guild in the past, it was definitely present when I interviewed applicants. Red flags everywhere if there was an excessive amount of tee hees or if they came across as flirty right off the bat.

Fail to see how that ties in with self respect, but...ya know...As I've said countless times in this thread this was my experience.

I should add that now it's not an issue, our folks just aren't vested enough in the game over at Unreliable for it to be an issue, we've got several female members and no issues.

Another thing to add...and another edit. Truth be told I'm probably harder on female players than their male counterparts. I'm guessing it's because on some level every time they don't measure up it feels like a step back. I guess I expect more because I know the potential is there. I know it's not rational, I'm jaded, it's not 1999 and the player base isn't made up of the same individuals it once was and every fuck up or emotional issue of my fellow female gamers isn't a reflection on me. It's a hang up, and it's something I need to work on. Even an old dog like me can learn new tricks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gaffin 7.0]

I am grown "the fuck up" 28 years old with a 6 year old son. Just saying from my experience with gaming and girls, specially in the high end of the game. Knix and Sidelle good peeps. not stereotyping anyone, knew some of you were gonna get mad regardless.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am grown "the fuck up" 28 years old with a 6 year old son. Just saying from my experience with gaming and girls, specially in the high end of the game. Knix and Sidelle good peeps. not stereotyping anyone, knew some of you were gonna get mad regardless.

I don't think anyone's mad. This is interesting subject matter, and Ajkuhuun expressed a similar sentiment as yours. She said she interviewed people individually though, and made assessments that way instead of expressing sweeping generalizations. Still seems a bit extreme to me, but I'm no hardcore gamer.

Originally Posted by Ajkuhuun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thing to add...and another edit. Truth be told I'm probably harder on female players than their male counterparts. I'm guessing it's because on some level every time they don't measure up it feels like a step back. I guess I expect more because I know the potential is there. I know it's not rational, I'm jaded, it's not 1999 and the player base isn't made up of the same individuals it once was and every fuck up or emotional issue of my fellow female gamers isn't a reflection on me. It's a hang up, and it's something I need to work on. Even an old dog like me can learn new tricks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's not okay for women to suck at games, we have a problem. The girls that can't hack it should not be representatives for the gender on a whole. I totally know what you mean though... sometimes I still make dumb mistakes, and I beat myself up a bit over them because it really does feel like I'm holding back some positive social change. And that's no good.

You sound like something of a perfectionist!

In the end I think we all just need to calm down. Those positive social changes (women and men being viewed on more equal terms while maintaining their positive social differences) seem like eventual inevitabilities to me anyway, though it may be another several generations before they happen. What will be, will be; and while it's always a good thing to help move things along in a progressive way it's best not to get caught up in it. imo

[Naena]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sound like something of a perfectionist!

Ajk re rolled from hunter to warlock during Burning Crusade just because she felt bad whenever she was a dps that didn't top charts. If you're not first, you're last!

[Ajkuhuun]

Originally Posted by Naena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ajk re rolled from hunter to warlock during Burning Crusade just because she felt bad whenever she was a dps that didn't top charts. If you're not first, you're last!

God damnit Naena >.< Aren't you meant to be like, working at work?