Seriously, stop raping BB

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

many people just didn't pursue it because they assumed it would flatline (and the loot sucks ass, plus the rest of the EQ world is new, whereas you've been in the same place for days, and the place was so permacamped you couldn't camp the place uninhibited for hours like you can here (if you go during off hours as I have a bunch of times, you can).

Sure, lots of people liked exploring. But even back in 99 (some) people absolutely were trying to level as quickly as possible. People had friends to catch up to, and even people with no friends had played other RPGs and knew all about the importance of leveling. And that only became more true in 2000, 2001, etc.

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plus, there are tons of ridiculous exploits from live that took months/years to actually surface because people just didn't widely share them.

Staying in the same exact place you are and doing the same quest you've been doing is not a ridiculous exploit. It doesn't require any special knoweldge (unlike say WC caps, OT hammers, or even just recharging items).

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assuming "If it provides good exp people will just keep doing it" is far too simplistic. Truth is they won't - a vast majority of the server, despite far more knowledge of the fact, completely ignores BB or has still never done the tooth quest. That should prove to you that your premises aren't quite accurate.

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of people never leveled there

So, because only 1/3rd (maybe 1/4th post-Kunark) of all players start with a certain dungeon, nothing can be worng with that dungeon?

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(the server has been up for almost 5 years and this has never been a consistent complaint until recently)?

I've only been here about a year, but I'm pretty sure the population is at a historic high ... which would explain why an issue like this, which is only relevant when the zone gets crowded, would only come up now.

The only other difference I could see between P99 and live is the culture/GMs. Maybe all level 20s just felt too guilty to take BB gnolls from lower levels on live. Or maybe GMs kicked such players out of the zone or something; I don't remember anything like that, but I guess it's possible. However, it's just illogical to insist that the quest gave the exact same XP on live, but for no reason everyone stopped doing it at a certain level. They stopped for a reason, either because of GM/cultural pressure or (more likely I think) because the mechanics were different.

[Xanzinder]

I haven't been to BB on P99 nor did I hunt there much on Live. A simple search in Allakhazams forums can tell us how it was in classic though...

#Jul 06 2000 at 12:46 PMRating: Decent
tyrel ECI
Anonymous
I turned in 122 gnoll fangs to the captin of the guard then i turned in the moonstones and i recieved 3/4 bub of xp at lvl 26!!!! plus it is a great way to build faction especially for a de sk!!!!

Or from September 7, 2000
I handed in about 40 fangs at lvl 15, and gained almost 2.5 bubs of exp, this quest is very good exp for lower lvls. Plus the faction you get from the fangs and moonstones is great, as by the time the corrupt guards would want to kill me, I will have already left for newer zones for bigger foes.
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Not sure what XP is being given out now, but that's how it was in classic

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Xanzinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't been to BB on P99 nor did I hunt there much on Live. A simple search in Allakhazams forums can tell us how it was in classic though...

#Jul 06 2000 at 12:46 PMRating: Decent
tyrel ECI
Anonymous
I turned in 122 gnoll fangs to the captin of the guard then i turned in the moonstones and i recieved 3/4 bub of xp at lvl 26!!!! plus it is a great way to build faction especially for a de sk!!!!

Or from September 7, 2000
I handed in about 40 fangs at lvl 15, and gained almost 2.5 bubs of exp, this quest is very good exp for lower lvls. Plus the faction you get from the fangs and moonstones is great, as by the time the corrupt guards would want to kill me, I will have already left for newer zones for bigger foes.
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"Pain is your best friend, it reminds you that you are still alive"

Not sure what XP is being given out now, but that's how it was in classic

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Xanzinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't been to BB on P99 nor did I hunt there much on Live. A simple search in Allakhazams forums can tell us how it was in classic though...

#Jul 06 2000 at 12:46 PMRating: Decent
tyrel ECI
Anonymous
I turned in 122 gnoll fangs to the captin of the guard then i turned in the moonstones and i recieved 3/4 bub of xp at lvl 26!!!! plus it is a great way to build faction especially for a de sk!!!!

Or from September 7, 2000
I handed in about 40 fangs at lvl 15, and gained almost 2.5 bubs of exp, this quest is very good exp for lower lvls. Plus the faction you get from the fangs and moonstones is great, as by the time the corrupt guards would want to kill me, I will have already left for newer zones for bigger foes.
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"Pain is your best friend, it reminds you that you are still alive"

Not sure what XP is being given out now, but that's how it was in classic

122 gnoll fangs would be like 3/4 of a level at lvl 26 for an SK on p99. Not 3/4 of a yellow.

40 fangs at level 15 would be a full level and then some on p99. I did 17.8 - 20 with 105 fangs.

I'm currently gaining a little over 5% per 4 fangs at level 21 as a ranger. Starting to wonder if Xp rewards went down relative to your level and weren't static amounts on live.

[Xanzinder]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

122 gnoll fangs would be like 3/4 of a level at lvl 26 for an SK on p99. Not 3/4 of a yellow.

40 fangs at level 15 would be a full level and then some on p99. I did 17.8 - 20 with 105 fangs.

I'm currently gaining a little over 5% per 4 fangs at level 21 as a ranger. Starting to wonder if Xp rewards went down relative to your level and weren't static amounts on live.

If that's the case the XP is way to high. People earlier in the thread were asking for proof... This is the proof that the XP for the Gnoll Fang quest is to high and is "not" classic.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Xanzinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's the case the XP is way to high. People earlier in the thread were asking for proof... This is the proof that the XP for the Gnoll Fang quest is to high and is "not" classic.

Fuck, I guess I'd better start farming bb on my Red wizard before they nerf the fangs

[baalzy]

Sorry, was 18.8 - 20 with 105 fangs. Gaining just over 5% (sometimes i get 6% total from a 4 fang hand in) at lvl 21 is definitely accurate.

[Xanzinder]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, was 18.8 - 20 with 105 fangs. Gaining just over 5% (sometimes i get 6% total from a 4 fang hand in) at lvl 21 is definitely accurate.

That may be accurate for today, not classic though. Sounds like you are getting about the same percentages of XP that a level 15 was getting back in 2000. Way more than what a level 26 was getting back in 2000 though. At level 26, 4 teeth should net about .5%.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

All of that is considered evidence.

All of that can be entered as a bug report.

Only YOU can save Blackburrow.

[Leeyuuduu]

We should discuss something less controversial than BB fangs, such as religion or politics