Dark Ascension

[quido]

Even though I could AFK constantly, I don't; I shit in a sock because I want to be as cool as DA!

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by xorbier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know a few including myself blame you for the zone crashes cause you were a dick on multiple occasions during many fear and hate raids. As I recall you would routinely use shout to incite other guilds and bash them about how much they sucked compared to IB. Perhaps it was in a joking manner but after seeing it on numerous occasions it sure made me think you were a douche.

Also, you conveniently were always around for zone crashes. While i have no proof of this your attitude in game and in shouts led me to believe you were a pos and capable of such things.

Pull your head out of your ass. I gave you guys some shit on a single occasion because I was so sick of the boss camping. One time. One.

I was in zone for almost all of your kills in Plane of Fear BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE I TRACKED FOR IB. I had one purpose and one purpose only: to ascertain the kill time so I knew when to start tracking again. I'm a fucking druid. Most of what I bring to a guild is porting people to raids and tracking boss spawns.

You didn't see it on numerous occasions. You saw me give you some shit one single time. On the other occasions, literally dozens of them, I said nothing in shout or ooc and the zone never crashed. What you should really be asking yourself is this question: "Did we ever experience a crash before Rallyd was in our guild?" Or maybe this question: "Did Rallyd get banned for crashing zones?"

Fuck you.

[Alawen Everywhere]

And I wasn't around for your Hate clears. I have never been bound in Plane of Hate. I was bound in Plane of Fear from the day I joined IB on January 29 until I returned home from Minnesota on August 12 and found myself in a death loop because of the new temple aggro code.

When you are this bad with facts, you should really shut the fuck up.

[Bashee_Feind]

Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry if i dont post hateful or rageful things all the time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] tell you what though, since you apparently put way too much value into this game and into these forums, ill indulge your appetite for "meaningful posts" with a little truth inbehind what happened

the whole CT/Draco fight was basically a cluserfuck...the 3 guilds in there were all racing to clear far enough in to get first attack on Draco as well as preventing the others from attempting. The entire night we saw people repositioning themselves directly infront of the others raid (I.E Div moving in a direct path between tran's and basically everything, WI moving to East wall then Div moving to the FIRE wall then trans moving to the east wall ABOVE WI) and people were rushing the entire aspect of it. i can only speak for myself but our teamspeak was filled with suggestions and yells of "go pull draco now!" or "if you pull further west, you can get draco to the fetid house then contiune south to avoid divinity's clusterfuck".

Now, after we (all the guilds) cleared the majority of the SW corner area between the fetid house to graveyard to the worrywraith tower, it was begining to look like the time to pull draco. Problem though, Draco was never pathing out of the way of 4 to 6 phobo's leaving the pullers a very hard task....pull draco and train the raidforce or contiune trying to break while enduring DT's. About this time, Supreme decides its been long enough...he see's a very small chance and says fuck it, thus starting the DT cycle the first time. We all deal with it, regroup, and then another fuckwad starts it again....then again....then another time... finally it was to the point that we all felt like killing ourselves just to make it easier. A

bout this time, I became pretty bored as i usually am and decide to cause a few laughs and grins (something that i generally do because, well lets face it...im not a dumb prick who trolls forums looking for drama like you are) by running out there to where people were tracking draco (barfight and like three other monks). I crouch-snuck all the way there so avoid any sort of discovery by mobs if they were up, i barrel rolled into position behind a tree, and i used my uber-dwarf-sight to decide if draco would be worth pulling...he then started moving, some monk aggro'd on accident i assume, and i saw my chance...i ran up, shot an arrow at the son-of-a-bitch, and TOOK off...only to be blinded by a filthy nitemare of all things! so i figured nows my chance to be a true hero and i contiune running in the direction i assume is SW, i make it maybe out of the graveyard before dropping, and our next puller took over...pulled 6 mobs to our raid, we wipe and div cleans up after us.



all this while WI were clearing still or dealing with the dt's (they were getting hit pretty hard by those things)


so there, unbiased account of what happened



oh and go fuck off....figure you wouldnt be happy if i didnt add one more thing to try and start drama. problem is though, no matter how many times i say to fuck off, i really just dont care :/

Wow, see. These are the types of posts I would expect from you. Not the silly nonsense that has nothing to to do with the post topic. Kudos, you proved me wrong. As for me being a troll, nah. I don't waste my time trolling posts. I do, however, call it like I see it. And I will add a line or two to correct someone who is assuming things or just all out making up stories (which seems to be the norm around here). People obviously get upset when a raid target is taken before them. Which is silly. I don't invest my life in this game, I play it when I don't have anything better to do. If there is something wrong with that, please let me know.

[Virtuosos]

but see, the silly nonsense is fun...people tend to take the game way too seriously (and sorry if i assumed you were one of them) and it gets old. i dont care enough about this game to sit afk for 3days (or whatever constitutes poopsocking now) to hope for a boss, but i damn sure will spend 3days tanking orcs in ecomms for noobs or in crushbone and passing out gear and talking to these little nublets :/

just a shame too many people base their playing styles on hopes of a raidboss popping, rather than what will let you have fun...if people have fun doing this 3day afk bullshit then i guess woot, but i cant believe there are alot of those kinds of people.

[Skope]

WI for some reason didn't feel it necessary to immediately camp during the DTs, which i thought was odd, but they were the one guild that would remain logged in and on the hate list the longest so that's probably the reason for the majority of DT's hitting them.

As for the poopsocking... guilds camping characters at a spawn point is common practice, even DA has done that, the difference is that DA had done that to 2 targets this past week with the intent to poopsock. Granted it was only several hours at a time, this will almost certainly stretch. This is exactly how poopsocking started, with guilds deciding that it would be wise to just leave your character logged in and hope for a pop because they weren't quick to pull the trigger on mobilization and tracking, this was then magnified when multiple guilds were doing it and then it subsequently stretched itself out over days.

The past 2 weeks there has been a lot of racing, and there was only one time that divinity had killed a target without any real competition (no guilds were actually aware it was up other than us, but we tracked, hopped on and ported in). No guild since the inception of these new rules decided to leave their characters logged in for hours and wait for spawn until DA decided it was their intent to do that.

Is it legal? Absolutely. I had issues with the rules from the first glance, knowing full-well that it left this option (or loophole, in my opinion) hoping that something like this wouldn't recur, and for a while it didn't. Targets were tracked, targets were raced to and targets were downed. But the fact is, many people think it's just flat-out wrong to leave your character logged in and waiting. Why? Because it technically doesn't jive well with the rules of first-to-engage. After months of poopsocking and keeping our mouths shut, the majority of the server really had enough of it, and rightfully so. This isn't the same poopsocking (the guild p'socking doesn't necessarily have the first shot, but you can see where the advantage lies), but there is still a very nasty taste in all of our mouths, and the one guild that it can really be attributed to is DA. There will be people saying they weren't the first, and that perhaps it isn't even poopsocking now, but the fact of the matter is they are and have been the single guild to use and abuse that tactic to its fullest and used (and will probably be using) that as their sole tactic for taking down a target.

My piece is said.

[xorbier]

Originally Posted by Kutter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got fuckn lucky is all. Less u gotz inside info. Fully raid buffed at Naggy just a couple hours before spawn. Vox u roll in just before spawn. Fuck u erudites.

Oh now your story changes from days to hours... You're almost getting to the truth. In actuality many of us arrived at Naggy 20-30 minutes prior to the fight. Most of us have jobs. I know that's hard concept for you to understand as you want everything handed to you on a silver platter. I'm sorry but there is not welfare on project 99! haha

I hear wow has instanced raid zones. You should check it out!

[xorbier]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pull your head out of your ass. I gave you guys some shit on a single occasion because I was so sick of the boss camping. One time. One.

I was in zone for almost all of your kills in Plane of Fear BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE I TRACKED FOR IB. I had one purpose and one purpose only: to ascertain the kill time so I knew when to start tracking again. I'm a fucking druid. Most of what I bring to a guild is porting people to raids and tracking boss spawns.

You didn't see it on numerous occasions. You saw me give you some shit one single time. On the other occasions, literally dozens of them, I said nothing in shout or ooc and the zone never crashed. What you should really be asking yourself is this question: "Did we ever experience a crash before Rallyd was in our guild?" Or maybe this question: "Did Rallyd get banned for crashing zones?"

Fuck you.

Perhaps. You're still a douche with all your incessant flaming on the forums.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by xorbier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps. You're still a douche with all your incessant flaming on the forums.

If flaming on the forums make one a douche, then you are..?

[Bashee_Feind]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WI for some reason didn't feel it necessary to immediately camp during the DTs, which i thought was odd, but they were the one guild that would remain logged in and on the hate list the longest so that's probably the reason for the majority of DT's hitting them.

As for the poopsocking... guilds camping characters at a spawn point is common practice, even DA has done that, the difference is that DA had done that to 2 targets this past week with the intent to poopsock. Granted it was only several hours at a time, this will almost certainly stretch. This is exactly how poopsocking started, with guilds deciding that it would be wise to just leave your character logged in and hope for a pop because they weren't quick to pull the trigger on mobilization and tracking, this was then magnified when multiple guilds were doing it and then it subsequently stretched itself out over days.

The past 2 weeks there has been a lot of racing, and there was only one time that divinity had killed a target without any real competition (no guilds were actually aware it was up other than us, but we tracked, hopped on and ported in). No guild since the inception of these new rules decided to leave their characters logged in for hours and wait for spawn until DA decided it was their intent to do that.

Is it legal? Absolutely. I had issues with the rules from the first glance, knowing full-well that it left this option (or loophole, in my opinion) hoping that something like this wouldn't recur, and for a while it didn't. Targets were tracked, targets were raced to and targets were downed. But the fact is, many people think it's just flat-out wrong to leave your character logged in and waiting. Why? Because it technically doesn't jive well with the rules of first-to-engage. After months of poopsocking and keeping our mouths shut, the majority of the server really had enough of it, and rightfully so. This isn't the same poopsocking (the guild p'socking doesn't necessarily have the first shot, but you can see where the advantage lies), but there is still a very nasty taste in all of our mouths, and the one guild that it can really be attributed to is DA. There will be people saying they weren't the first, and that perhaps it isn't even poopsocking now, but the fact of the matter is they are and have been the single guild to use and abuse that tactic to its fullest and used (and will probably be using) that as their sole tactic for taking down a target.

My piece is said.

All I'm saying, is while sitting on the target.. There were duels and laughs shared by many. We weren't afk, we were all having an enjoyable time hanging out. I don't see where camping a raid target is any different than camping a spawn of your choice. Yeah, there's not as much killing as if you'd camp frenzy, but does that really make it that much different?

I sat in frenzy for 37 hours... Does that make me a bad person? A poopsocker so to speak? I'm not sure what the need for all the hatred is.. Vesica Dei was holding innoruuk's camp before DA. VD gave up and Senaiel said "it's all yours" and they left. DA didn't try to leapfrog them or go sit on the spawn point when VD was sitting on the ramp. DA respected VD's claims to inny and left it at that, until they left. I think alot of people pinpoint DA for their own reasons. But come on, DA is not the only ones doing this.