Blade of Carnage drop on beta

[pasi]

I think it makes a lot more sense looking at the DPS of a raid instead of individuals.

From a sheer DPS standpoint, a raid with 30 Kunark rogues, 1 necro, 1 ranger, 1 monk, 1 wizard, 1 mage, 1 paladin, and 1 SK will outdps a Velious geared raid of 6 rogues, 4 necros, 5 rangers, 6 monks, 5 wizards, 5 mages, 3 paladins, and 3 SKs.

From a sheer DPS standpoint, your BiS ranger can upgrade his DPS by rerolling an epic rogue. Much like druids can go beyond 60 by simply leveling a cleric to 39.

It's an interesting argument to make, but I would bet that the raid TMO can field on day 1 is going to have much higher DPS than what any guild was capable of on Day 0 of Shadows of Luclin due to class optimization and more raiders.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by AceDSilva [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And not having dial-up modems, shitty graphics cards, unreliable voice communication, chat parsers for anything you want to flag. Modern raiding isn't the lore and excitement it used to be, it's trying to get programs to read a script so players can think less and "win" more. By sheer knowledge of the environment and capability of equipment (not pixels, stuff that has electricity running through it), every thing on this server is cake compared to what it was before. Some nostalgidiots will sit here and say plenty of guilds in Kunark were just training the entire PoF fear zone and zerging CT, every time they killed him! But we all know that's complete bullshit.

I agree with this for most things.

For DPS classes though, player knowledge, skill, and connection don't do a whole ton. You aren't going to see much of a difference in ability to autoattack and press a button every couple seconds. No doubt there are small things for minimal gains, but overall, shits the same.

[Nirgon]

Worn aura of battle shouldn't stack on our timeline, ja? Just a clicked version (like from shield) + 1 worn

[Raev]

Look, it's not insulting to people who played this back in the day that we are better now. We've had 4 years to play with this stuff.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worn aura of battle shouldn't stack on our timeline, ja? Just a clicked version (like from shield) + 1 worn

Do you have evidence of this? I know theres evidence on Flowing Thought not stacking, haven't seen it on Auras.

But I didn't play a melee DPS class during this era so ????

[wycca]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have evidence of this? I know theres evidence on Flowing Thought not stacking, haven't seen it on Auras.

But I didn't play a melee DPS class during this era so ????

My understanding was that in this era, up to 5x aura of battle stacked. Could be wrong though.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worn aura of battle shouldn't stack on our timeline, ja? Just a clicked version (like from shield) + 1 worn

Aura of battle can stack up to 5 times, changed when they implemented aas and used as example when people begin to question how they changed .

and this only speaking of the worn aura , dracolich 2,0 fearsome shield cliky will not stack either with firefist,(in my case as paladin i had berserker ring) or chestplate of fiery might cliky or daing ring or regular rege spells.casted from shaman , druid, they sued to do with paladin divine purpose

not gonna do ur work but if u want to know how it worked, go search steel warrior forum and the thread vengeance items versus aura of battle.
little edit, worn cap pf rege was 35. and atk was 250(this included aura of battle items, avatar , and ranger buffs and yaul and some enc hastes).

[Daldaen]

Worn caps were worn effects only. They didn't inckude buffs

[jpetrick]

It makes me really sad that Ele had to point out that this sword sucks ass during Velious. Give warriors some love, it's a lot of work holding aggro on this server.

[Daldaen]

Willsapper and BotBD are good enough aggro for any warrior.