The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[jcr4990]

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Also: Fuck BDA #1 scum guild of P99

[Pokesan]

im actually onboard with BDA getting their own server; just remove mobs that drop raid loot

it's not about the pixels, right?

[Merekai]

Here's an idea...clear the north wing trash mobs like they were meant to be?
Oh wait this is P99...

Chev

[Troubled]

Didn't read thread. If you can't kill a mob in the wing it spawns in, don't kill it. You're training everyone else, fuckfaces. Grow some balls and take faction hits.

[Stormfists]

Can't help but think BDA chooses it's own morality when it suits.

If that exact same video was another guilds train, and it was Juevento's chubby stumpy body poking out of the cubby, then this thread would have been phrased to trash everyone for "training".

Tldr;
BDA gets trained - "waaaah."
BDA trains others - "/shrug, ain't our fault."

Chest grow some balls buddy and just admit when BDA are in the wrong.

[Fanguru]

First in force would be a nightmare to enforce, but let us entertain the idea a minute.

What would it grant exactly?
Everyone has to move away for XXmn so first in force can make an attempt?
How long can they stall before engaging?
If that timer runs out, are other guilds meant to pull through first in force?
Where do other guilds wait?
What happens if first in force wipes, is it FTE again between other guilds to decide who picks up the mob? Since other guilds moved away, there is probably trash on the way. More trains?

With so many guilds competing for the same mobs and so few spots, I do not see this happening realistically.

[maestrom]

The problem with your trak example, was there wasn't a clear rule, not that the intent of the rule was bad.

[Fanguru]

So you can sit your X people at ToV entrance, claim Aaryonar, and afk + petition guilds getting FTE on him?

[JboxCSU]

Originally Posted by Fanguru [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you can sit your X people at ToV entrance, claim Aaryonar, and afk + petition guilds getting FTE on him?

He's just laying the foundation, there would be holes to plug. I wouldn't be a fan of FiF in zone, but more of a proponent of FiF near the raid target, or a known/safe pull spot of the target.

Things like # of attempts, time to engage from claim, etc can be worked out.

Honestly FiF is the best idea I've seen...

[maestrom]

Originally Posted by Fanguru [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you can sit your X people at ToV entrance, claim Aaryonar, and afk + petition guilds getting FTE on him?

TBH, I'm not sure how well First in Force would work in zones like sleepers and ToV, and I'm not sure how guilds normally divide NToV. Is it usually 1 guild takes all of NToV or do guilds leapfrog each other?

I'm fine with just saying that NToV + sleepers remain FTE.

If one pop of NToV is typically cleared by several guilds, then first in force would not make much sense to put in place. But if NToV is usually only raided by 1 guild at a time (guilds do not actively leapfrog each other), then FIF would work fine.

Yes. a guild could sit at IZ and claim NToV/Specific targets within NToV if necessary.