2 Fungi wins in a row, now what?

[Subidoo]

Was going to say, he should of passed on the second drop, thats just rude to roll again. But why didn't the group say something?

[Teppler]

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

You roll on everything that is valuable enough to you, no matter what you won before.

Playing games about who deserves what does nothing but make things messy.

Don't like doing a lot of work pulling? Sign up for the group you want with the class you want then.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

You roll on everything that is valuable enough to you, no matter what you won before.

Playing games about who deserves what does nothing but make things messy.

Don't like doing a lot of work pulling? Sign up for the group you want with the class you want then.

Not how it used to be bruh and def not how it was on a real classic server. Lots of greed floating around out there it seems like. Back then, you rolled once you got yours and then you didn't roll on it until you came back with a completely different group the next day. This way the other 5 people in your group got a higher chance to win one.

It must suck if this is the way it is now on P99. Can't wait until they wipe it clean. It WILL happen. Every server dies. We need a fresh start. P99 needs to follow the right timeline on it's next go.

[-TK-]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not how it used to be bruh and def not how it was on a real classic server. Lots of greed floating around out there it seems like. Back then, you rolled once you got yours and then you didn't roll on it until you came back with a completely different group the next day. This way the other 5 people in your group got a higher chance to win one.

I call bullshit on this subjective and biased assertion, bruh. It wasn't that way all of the time, and I rarely experienced what you described during classic on live (started pre-Kunark). It may have been that way sometimes with guildies and friends, but your feel-good sense of nostalgia blinds you to the possibility that your sole remembered experience might not represent reality. The problem is there is a heavy dose of victim mentality around here laced with a cut of bitter-bitch syndrome.

He was part of a cash camp PUG and everyone was there for the same reason. It really makes absolutely no difference if he would have left and another player came in and won. None. The others still lost. We all roll the same virtual dice with the same odds. Just because the dude hit a lucky streak the losers try to demonize him? Okay... Thinking that the other people playing an online video game - having different backgrounds, cultures, and experiences - should be bound to your sense of moral action and ideology is purely naive and arrogant.

This whole situation is why Nilbog has made clear that this server is meant to replicate Everquest's classic mechanics. Classic experiences are wildly subjective. And if you think the server being restarted is going to change any of this, you'll be very disappointed. It will probably only exacerbate the situation when you have 1000+ (perhaps vastly more) people vying for classic camps/items.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by -TK- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I call bullshit on this subjective and biased assertion, bruh. It wasn't that way all of the time, and I rarely experienced what you described during classic on live (started pre-Kunark). It may have been that way sometimes with guildies and friends, but your feel-good sense of nostalgia blinds you to the possibility that your sole remembered experience might not represent reality. The problem is there is a heavy dose of victim mentality around here laced with a cut of bitter-bitch syndrome.

He was part of a cash camp PUG and everyone was there for the same reason. It really makes absolutely no difference if he would have left and another player came in and won. None. The others still lost. We all roll the same virtual dice with the same odds. Just because the dude hit a lucky streak the losers try to demonize him? Okay... Thinking that the other people playing an online video game - having different backgrounds, cultures, and experiences - should be bound to your sense of moral action and ideology is purely naive and arrogant.

This whole situation is why Nilbog has made clear that this server is meant to replicate Everquest's classic mechanics. Classic experiences are wildly subjective. And if you think the server being restarted is going to change any of this, you'll be very disappointed. It will probably only exacerbate the situation when you have 1000+ (perhaps vastly more) people vying for classic camps/items.

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

[Swish]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

You sold Skorge when it was legal here didn't you and rerolled with the plat? Is that classic? Or did the original owner hand over the forum account info and this is the recipient? Is that classic? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[-TK-]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

I don't see anything that you quoted that indicates anything about the community and their expected behavior or of this being a "TRUE" classic server. In fact, the devs have long said not everything will be the same; sometimes by design. I actually see specifically sited points on mechanics and technical game aspects like the 'look and feel of the old interface' in your quote. You're still stuck on your perceived classic experience as being the de facto experience everyone else should be having or desire to have. This server is undoubtedly the closest thing to classic out there and rings true to a lot of what the classic experience was to a lot of people. Your idealized experience based on your sense of morality is not what this server is or is even expected to be by, what I think, is the majority that still play here. Many of us (again, 1000+) are still content with what this server has to offer. Not because it ever offered a "TRUE" classic server, but because, like the message you quoted said, this is 'the best and most popular classic Everquest experience.'

Passing on the second fungi is fine if you feel so inclined to do so, and I'm sure it would make you feel noble, but to think that an entire community is falling apart or should be condemned for not doing so only shows your ignorance and inflated sense of self. Putting /thread at the end of your poorly made point doesn't help either. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Evia]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is MORE than just mechanics, whether Nilbog says it or not. Here is the bit right off the homepage, man:

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Velious expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

A real classic experience is more just than just "mechanics." Everquest's main experience relies in it's community. To get the classic experience requires a mix of mechanics and community.

I need to make a thread and take a poll at how many people would pass on a second fungi tunic like that. I would pass in a heart beat if I had just won one. If the majority votes they would keep it, then P99 is no longer a TRUE classic server.

/thread

Lol what? You wrote a whole bunch and I was looking for you to make your point but you never did. Where in that quote does it indicate anything you're talking about? I also love how you ended it by proudly/arrogantly proclaiming that if majority would take the second fungi that it proves p99 isn't a 'true' classic server. Haha what? How does (continuing) to roll for an item have anything to do with true classic? Like, I don't even see the relation between the two. Are you trying to say people don't roll for items in true classic? I really honestly don't understand your line of thinking, I'm not being sarcastic. You should check your logic dude.

[Evia]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't believe this is even a discussion.

You roll on everything that is valuable enough to you, no matter what you won before.

Playing games about who deserves what does nothing but make things messy.

Don't like doing a lot of work pulling? Sign up for the group you want with the class you want then.

100% this. I can't stand NBG mindsets or the idea that simply because you won something you are banned from rolling on something again. In the real world, sure this is the kindhearted way to go about things. In a video game MMO though, the only 100% fair method is to allow every person who contributed to the kill the chance at the loot. You can't force your "good samaritan" ways upon other people simply because its the "right" thing to do in your eyes. Allowing everyone who contributes a EQUAL shot at the loots is the only logical, unemotional, and 100% fair way of handling the situation. If you're with a guild or among friends then NBG can work out. In a PUG or whatever though it doesn't make sense at all.

This is easily the most controversial topic though I've encountered while playing EQ. Everyone has their opinion about it and they're usually pretty passionate about it (myself included).

[Teppler]

Send me 15$ a month for your PURE classic experience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]