Nigel "The Hammer" Farage

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

us debt = 106,93% of GDP
French debt = 97,85% of GDP

Which is actually more than the whole EU debt= 87,4% of GDP.

Which of those are not one of all?

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That much is obvious. If the exchange is compulsory, enacted unilaterally by an authority such as government then it would still qualify as a confiscation. This is so hard : /

no it is not, when equal compensation is offered it is called exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confiscation

feel free to post a source which mentions that an exchange of equal value goods is defined as confiscation

gl

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no it is not, when equal compensation is offered it is called exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confiscation

feel free to post a source which mentions that an exchange of equal value goods is defined as confiscation

gl

I don't need to. The definition of confiscate includes "to seize by authority." It does not preclude compensation. These sorts of subtle differences are important to logic.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confiscate?s=t

The funny thing is, you don't even understand what part of your argument was valid lol.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't need to. The definition of confiscate includes "to seize by authority." It does not preclude compensation. These sorts of subtle differences are important to logic.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/confiscate?s=t

The funny thing is, you don't even understand what part of your argument was valid lol.

I'm sorry, I don't see any of those definitions including the mention of compensation being offered, quite the contrary.

verb (used with object), confiscated, confiscating.
1.
to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of penalty, for public use.
2.
to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily:
The border guards confiscated our movie cameras.

1. includes "as forfeited", which seems to indicate .. no compensation

2. do you think the border guards offered compensation for the cameras? do you think "seizing by authority", is an indication of compensation being offered?

hilarious

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry, I don't see any of those definitions including the mention of compensation being offered, quite the contrary.

verb (used with object), confiscated, confiscating.
1.
to seize as forfeited to the public domain; appropriate, by way of penalty, for public use.
2.
to seize by or as if by authority; appropriate summarily:
The border guards confiscated our movie cameras.

1. includes "as forfeited", which seems to indicate .. no compensation

2. do you think the border guards offered compensation for the cameras? do you think "seizing by authority", is an indication of compensation being offered?

hilarious

This is my point. The definitions don't preclude compensation whether they are ordinarily used to mean that or not. If you insist that confiscate must necessarily occur without compensation, then please share a source otherwise you are wrong... again.

[derpcake]

I used the definitions you linked and both of them preclude compensation as much as a definition can.

You are twisting the burden of proof and doing a poor job at it.

You might as well ask me to provide proof that confiscation doesn't involve clowns. It doesn't btw, unfortunately there won't be any source detailing it, as its nonsense.

[maskedmelon]

Good game.

*shakes Derpcake's hand*

[derpcake]

Thanks, I appreciate a man that knows when to back out.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, I appreciate a man that knows when to back out.

ya - after he ejaculates

[derpcake]

Pm Maerelith or something.

I am not into that, but am sure you'll find some that are.

Best of luck.