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Old 10-29-2016, 06:11 PM
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so that's what the BMW dealer was talking about when he said "buying a BMW is more of an investment than any other car, these hold value" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kerwin's 300 definitely has a reputation, but for how much longer I don't know. That generation who appreciates the ZX is getting older and I think its like you said, without the right specs Im not paying more than 2k-3k if I was in that market.

I imagine a lot of the 300ZX price elasticity hinges on a far smaller of subset of people than the BMW aficionados. Maybe you could get the money Kerwin is talking about if you find a white suburban kid whos hot for rice and buying his first car. without the turbos man I don't see it.
ya a shit n/a will run u anywhere from 1-3k but they all high miles or pieces of shit, for a nice Z your gonna pay they harder to find in diff states and getting more rare each year
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:15 PM
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cool shitty old cars in this thread

junk those and get them off the road
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:28 PM
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i got a 93 hardtop 300zx with custom interior/sound/body etc and i love these cars but..

fuckin pain in the ass on maintenance and they honestly drive like shit. pretty much only for looking nice and straight line driving. got the e46 coupe too and it drives much nicer, steering doesnt feel like shit in it and much better visibility
ive come close to pulling the trigger on a few 300zx's, they're really good looking cars, but the maintenance nightmares are enough to steer me clear. and i live in a no-rust state i couldn't imagine having to deal with welding and paint on top of everything. i've seen enough build threads to know what a typical 300zx resto involves. would love to have one but if i was gonna buy a nightmare project car of that era i'd probably go with a 944.

e46 have a real good feel stock. along with the 1 series, they're the best of the "new" style bmw coupes. friend has an f30 and e46, outside of the newer gen turbos the e46 is all around a better experience. but ill admit bmw's newer turbos are amazing, coming from someone who hates the feel of turbo'd cars, spools so well you can't even tell it's there.

on paper and for real world driving the e46 is superior to the e30 in almost every way because of the IRS, smoother motor & noticeable low end torque boost. but the e30 is a better car for having fun because the trailing arm suspension is slidey+fun and factory LSD. also the stock e30 steering is 4 turns to lock and sucks dick, but swap in a $150 z3 rack and it has the best mechanical steering feel you'll find on any car.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:33 PM
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id rather work on a 300 than a bmw or porsche any day of the week
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:39 PM
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id rather work on an account and uber everywhere.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:39 PM
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[QUOTE=Vibrate;2391027]tt got a knock about a month ago, rebuild this winter but this is like my 3rd build so kinda annoying at same time, maintenance is pretty bad but if you do right things like egr delete etc much easier to work on.

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im sure the bmw handles the corners a bit better but with the right suspension and brakes tt be right there with u
they both have flaws stock.
the bmw is slow as shit unless it has really aggressive gearing like mine (in which case it sucks dick for highway cruising instead) and there is no reasonable way to get more power without a motor swap. and the only motor swaps with good power gains that keep the weight distribution intact are expensive and/or not the most reliable. like ya u can jam an ls1 in there for cheap and do sweet burnouts, but there goes the handling. also you basically need to swap the steering rack which is a pain in the dick unless you also happen to be doing an interior resto at the same time.

tt has whimpy breaks for the car's weight & it's heavy. brakes are easy and suspension can compensate, but you can never overcome physics when it comes to throwing a bigger+heavier object around a corner. it's a lot cheaper and easier to fix a tt's flaws, but you can never fully fix them.

only real flaw you can't fix on an e30 within the realm of a normal human being who doesn't fabricate is the trailing arm rear susp. disadvantage for lap times, advantage for fun factor.

tt's are beautiful & great highway cruisers. single man's touring car imho.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:42 PM
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tt got a knock about a month ago, rebuild this winter but this is like my 3rd build so kinda annoying at same time, maintenance is pretty bad but if you do right things like egr delete etc much easier to work on.
see that's what i mean by "you can definitely get 500hp off stock internals, but isn't gonna be reliable" if its already that much work at stock boost.

idk some people are all about the epeen numbes, personally i'll build for conservative & reliable boost any day unless its a track rat.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:47 PM
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cool shitty old cars in this thread

junk those and get them off the road
what u drive tomatoking?
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:48 PM
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id rather work on a 300 than a bmw or porsche any day of the week
e30 is a joy to work on, last era of cars along with miatas and stuff that were actually meant to be worked on by the owner. with a few exceptions (rear subframe bushings, U-joint, figuring out old Bosch motronics systems the first time) everything is stupidly straight forward. give me a bentley manual and the factory trunk lid toolkit and i can basically part the whole car out.

new cars, boosted cars etc have way too much shit crammed in the engine bay, and the new "cover everything in plastic!" shit only makes it worse. that's why i hate the Cadillac. liked that car up until i had to do an alternator.
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Old 10-29-2016, 06:48 PM
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id never run 500 on stock internals but mine isnt stock and still runs on low boost, no idea how this knock happened yet... shit is retarded not even 80k on it
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