Why are most of the artists in the USA democrats?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First off you need to prove the millions claim. Secondly I believe you are forgetting that it started over Mike Brown, who was a drug dealing shop lifter, and gained attention due to the false whitness reports along with misinformation from liberal news stations like CNN. The "movement" still hasn't been able to prove that police violence towards minorities isn't directly related to those minorities crime rates.

Their first rallies all ended in riots where large portions of cities and towns were vandalized. Baltimore and Ferguson are just two examples. This movement topped out in the thousands and never reached millions of supporters.

Ok, let's start with the millions thing: measuring membership in social movements is hard. It's not like everyone who believes in and supports BLM goes to a webpage and registers. But all you need is basic math to see it has to be in the millions.

There are 326+ million people in America. For "millions" to be accurate, only 2 million, or 0.6% of the population would have to support BLM. Do you really think less than 0.6% of America supports BLM?

Second, you're 100% wrong about it starting with Mike Brown; hell it didn't even start with Rodney King. African-Americans in our society have been dealing with police brutality and harassment since the moment they were freed, and they've been fighting it for just as long. BLM is just a continuation of MLK's and Malcom X's fight, which in turn continued the fight that came before.

As for:

The "movement" still hasn't been able to prove that police violence towards minorities isn't directly related to those minorities crime rates.

You sort of have a point: African-Americans (as a logical function of their history) have higher crime rates. And certainly, if cops are arresting criminals, and African-Americans make up more of the criminals, they'll get arrested more.

But none of that has anything to do with the stuff BLM is fighting, stuff like police brutality and false arrests/convictions. No one, whatever their race, deserves to live in fear of the police, to be beaten by police, or to be falsely arrested and/or convicted.

[mickmoranis]

welcome back lor the threads were getting boring yesterday w/o u

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But none of that has anything to do with the stuff BLM is fighting, stuff like brutality and false arrests/convictions. No one, whatever their race, deserves to live in fear of the police, to be beaten by police, or to be falsely arrested and/or convicted.

I know you want BLM to be what you think it is but it's not:

Carlson began the interview by reading an excerpt from a statement disseminated by BLM regarding the controversy:

Being intentional about being around Black People is an act of resistance. This is an exclusively Black Space so if you do not identify as Black and want to come because you love Black People, please respect the space and do not come.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...cial-exclusion

the irony that the only white person allowed to come to the BLM rallies is the one woman the liberals cannot stand.

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[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know you want BLM to be what you think it is but it's not:

I know you want BLM to be the big boogeyman in the night, but it's not.

C'mon, read your own article:

Earlier this month, Durden, a professor of media and effective speech at a New Jersey community college

One community college professor does not speak for an entire movement of millions of people.

But ...

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

welcome back lor the threads were getting boring yesterday w/o u

Thank you; unfortunately my life involves other things more pressing than elf sim forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

other things more pressing than elf sim forums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gasp! nothing is more pressing than the elf sim forums!

but like hayjin said.

Liberal movements are these nebulous amoebas that, yeah start off innocently enough, but as they allow anyone of anytype to join the movements, they become very disjointed, mixed up, and bad.

BLM started off fine, but it went into full on anti cop anti white anti this anti that. Its just out of control

Idk if you remember the 1% rallies, they started off with good intentions too, but by week 9 were full of nudists holding up signs about oppresion camping out on wallstreet.

Liberal movements are open to the bottom of society, so they spin out of control REAL fast...

Resist was a movement that was meant to get people to fight against a government that was about to take control of our lives, but instead of fighting against actual policy like taxes and regulation, its about sex, hollywood, and russian boogymen.

Your cause, as an individual may be valid, but the one you fight side by side with strangers for, the big picture, is just different than what YOU are fighting for, and what you are fighting for gets forgoten about, since there is no room in a hive mind for logic and fair rulings.

Which is why all lower class uprisings fail, historically.

[loramin]

So there's two possibilities here. Honestly I think there's a little truth to both of them, but I think you're only even thinking about one.

Possibility #1: As social groups grow, they lose control of their original goals

Possibility #2: As people in society without power fight to gain equality (ie. more power), the people with the power feel threatened, and do everything they can to discredit, disparage, demean, and flat out lie about the people trying to take their power from them. This includes the white/straight/protestant/older/male Fox News crowd discrediting any social movement of people not like them (eg. BLM).

[mickmoranis]

number 1 is true, number 2 is the fallacy that people that dont want number 1 to be true tell themselves to rationalize being a libtard. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

So you're saying historically right-wing groups and media didn't attack and discredit the gay rights movement, Rodney King, women wanting the right to vote, African-Americans not having to take literacy tests, etc.?

There's FUD about African-Americans being sub-human going back to before America was even discovered. None of this is new.

[mickmoranis]

sec I gotta go for a bit, ill be back later tonight bb

[maskedmelon]

In an effort to remain engaged, I've attempted to construct comparatively demented arguments, Lor. Please let me know if i need to add more unrelated facts for it to make sense to you.

In all honesty though, I can't believe you are genuinely too dumb to understand the points that I make. mick's parodies are too well constructed for me to believe that, so I am left believing your posts are genuine and you are maliciously ignoring my point because there is zero humor in your posts.

In case I wandered too much or was too indirect above:

You are dishonest or you are an idiot. There is also the offchance that you are simply blinded by arrogance, but I don't think so.

I feel liek this role is intent on annoying me. if that was the goal, I congratulate you, but still don't understand why you would want to do something liek that. I have learned from the behavior though. anyway, see below.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, let's start with the millions thing: measuring membership in social movements is hard. It's not like everyone who believes in and supports BLM goes to a webpage and registers. But all you need is basic math to see it has to be in the millions.

There are 326+ million people in America. For "millions" to be accurate, only 2 million, or 0.6% of the population would have to support BLM. Do you really think less than 0.6% of America supports BLM?

sorry, but about 1/4th of the US is children and while members of BLM may act as such, they are not. this means that your 2million number is inflated by around 1/3. However, if we are to assume that BLM is as diverse as the United States, that number would mean that 1 of every 25 blacks would be members of BLM (assuming no oppressors or similarly subjugated people's are members).

However, the ACTUAL number of BLM members is 42,481.

Second, you're 100% wrong about it starting with Mike Brown; hell it didn't even start with Rodney King. African-Americans in our society have been dealing with police brutality and harassment since the moment they were freed, and they've been fighting it for just as long. BLM is just a continuation of MLK's and Malcom X's fight, which in turn continued the fight that came before.

No, BLM has nothing to do with MLK.

As for:



You sort of have a point: African-Americans (as a logical function of their history) have higher crime rates. And certainly, if cops are arresting criminals, and African-Americans make up more of the criminals, they'll get arrested more.

This happens a lot unfortunately and is something we need to work on as a nation.

But none of that has anything to do with the stuff BLM is fighting, stuff like police brutality and false arrests/convictions. No one, whatever their race, deserves to live in fear of the police,

That's how people end up getting shot.

to be beaten by police, or to be falsely arrested and/or convicted.

BLM is about leveraging the strong arm of government in the theft and dissolution of private property.