Some of you got your wish

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're smarter than that. i believe in you!

i wish i were lol ^^ i haven't stopped thinking about it btw and by 'it' i mean the general nature of right and wrong and what should be. i honestly wish someone would show me where I am wrong, but i generally can't even convey my position without people dismissing it as nonesense. it generally turns out how it did with loramin there where we agreed on the first two premises, but he ignored the third and went on to debate another point (and it was a valid point and not one I have overlooked). anyway, ty

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Lulz~Sect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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You know, not to sound butthurt but prison rape is no joke.

Every time prison rape is brought up everyone makes a joke about it and its a real pain in the ass.

I don't want to sound too anal about it -- but we should really try to be more sensitive.

I'm not sure what it's going to take to penetrate through the tightly bound ideas people have in society about prisoner's "deserving it." Butt I was hoping opening up in my post could lubricate the process.

rectum.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, not to sound butthurt but prison rape is no joke.

Every time prison rape is brought up everyone makes a joke about it and its a real pain in the ass.

I don't want to sound too anal about it -- but we should really try to be more sensitive.

I'm not sure what it's going to take to penetrate through the tightly bound ideas people have in society about prisoner's "deserving it." Butt I was hoping opening up in my post could lubricate the process.

rectum.

Aux daps

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, not to sound butthurt but prison rape is no joke.

Every time prison rape is brought up everyone makes a joke about it and its a real pain in the ass.

I don't want to sound too anal about it -- but we should really try to be more sensitive.

I'm not sure what it's going to take to penetrate through the tightly bound ideas people have in society about prisoner's "deserving it." Butt I was hoping opening up in my post could lubricate the process.

rectum.

*m-m-monster daps*

[Lhancelot]

Is it safe to say people are fucked up and eventually die either naturally or by bad choices they made in life? That's something everyone can agree on I bet.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you ignored my questions, but it is obvious that addiction breeds suffering and safe injection sites subsidize addiction. im not interested in providing evidence for claims i haven't made or endorsed. the issue is in promoting addiction and selling it as such something praiseworthy because they are unwilling to sacrifice anything to actually solve the problem.

since you enjoy mischaracterizing arguments with bogus analogies, what you are effectively saying is, "well, I don't understand or give a shit about how these people or their families or friends feel and therefore have no interest in actually remedying their situation, so I'll just do "what i can" to ensure this particular misery endures while pretending I've furnished aid, elevating my own sense of self worth and superiority in doing so."

this is actually the reason why i respect barkingturtle's position on veganism even though i dont entirely agree with it. he actually changes the world for affected individuals. He sacrifices his time and resources to provide a better life for them rather than delivering organic chicken feed to slaughter houses or writing a $20 check for someone else to do it.

i guess another way of looking at the issue of safe injection sites is providing clean saws and medical aid to people who enjoy removing their own limbs. At least they won't get infection or die!

Melon you started this conversation out so good, engaging me with logic and reason ... but now you're just being nonsensical.

Needle clinics don't exacerbate addiction: both the WHO and the AMA found as much. Yet you keep going on and on about how terrible the clinics are making things, when that terribleness only exists in your head. Meanwhile, in the real world, the two biggest health organizations on the planet both found the exact opposite.

So look, all I'm asking for is logic and/or evidence that needle clinics actually make the world worse. That's all. Can you provide that, or are you just going to keep on asserting how bad they are simply because "Melon declares it to be true"?

[Pokesan]

he's stuck on a thought most had at age 13

no wonder j favors him ^^

[AzzarTheGod]

safe needle sites are also disingenuous given the quality of heroin. melons point stands for that reason alone if nothing else.

fentanyl epidemic warrants state manufactured morphine as a treatment to addiction no different than they do in Switzerland and Holland. you either go all the way or you don't.

there are moral complications of providing a needle site without clean opiates to use.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_troll [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you guys or whoever and the loveliest person on the board are having two different debates. The melon may have overextended by making her engagement in the wrong field. I think maybe she was taking whatever terrain she was given to engage with you on. This constitutes a blessing.



this might be SORTA true on surface anal-ysis but I prescribe some attention to between the lines to all of yall. our melon is a friend not for bullying. She's a sweet girl not really suited to combats even if she sorta engages in them by sometime getting frustrated & judgy about her partner's comparative lack of imagination or initiative or gentleness, real or imagined. manage these moods by refusing engagement while applying warmth & compression. she does deserve those.

anyway I didnt read really the thread. this is a net energy assessment gathered from skimming. Now all involved and others are encouraged to pat their melon's head and set chakra beams to 'soft'.

pat

*daps calm prevailing voice of reason*

[Lulz~Sect]

an elfpal from red recently OD’d a few days ago

the fent epidemic is real